I hate the new iPods! and why, who agrees?

Discussion in 'Macintosh Computers' started by Grokgod, May 5, 2003.

  1. Grokgod macrumors 6502a


    Feb 26, 2002
    Deep within the heart of madness!
    I decided to buy the new iPod when it came out despite the fact that the new
    design was very much UGLY!

    I assumed that I must be wrong and that APPLE new what they were doing and that true usage would tell the real tale!~

    WELL HELL , here is my tale!

    I dont like them.

    Here is why.

    New buttons, lord they are just horrible.
    The slightest touch sends it into a chaotic dance of confusion.

    They are TOO close together.
    If you reach into your pocket to FF
    as I used to in the older version.
    I knew immediately where the FF arrow was. Now its next to pause where the slightest breeze sets it off!

    Of course there are those that will say , use the remote!
    sure , whatever....

    Is the screen dimmer, looks dimmer to me! When a song title scrolls it dims out strangely??

    I have to use the HOLD button now or else! Never had to give hold the least of thought. It was never needed.

    Now HOLD is very important if i actually want to enjoy a song without fixating on the POD controls.

    Is this thing even more scratchable?
    After mere hours of owning it,
    the screen is whacked!
    From what, I have NO idea.
    My pockets are clean and I was treating it better than my own life!

    All in all, i find the total experience far below the first iPods.

    Of course, I liked the size which is smaller.
    BUT not with less battery power!
    The extra 3 hours or more that I had on my first suddenly looks crucial, to enjoying this unit to its fullest.

    I am hoping that after I sell this unit.

    Apple will come to their senses and fix all these problems!
    What do you other Pod owners think?
  2. applemacdude macrumors 68040


    Mar 26, 2001
    Over The Rainbow
  3. lmalave macrumors 68000


    Nov 8, 2002
    Chinatown NYC
    Yeah, I noticed the buttons are hypersensitive. This is my first iPod, but I can see what you're saying about just being able to find and press the buttons while the iPod is still in your pocket. That would be more convenient than using the remote (which is just too much darn cable when I'm just trying to listen to music during my workout), or doing what I do now, which is: remove iPod from pocket, remove hold, press forward skip button.

    In terms of battery life, I have found Apple's 8 hour estimate to be conservative. I definitely played it for more than 8 hours today. On a single charge I played it: on my way to work, most of the day at work, on my way back from work, all during my workout. It was at least 9 or 10 hours. I think Apple decided to err on the side of caution this time, since they have been accused of exaggerated battery times with their iPods, iBooks, PowerBooks.
  4. Rai macrumors member

    May 1, 2003
    Well this is my first ipod, and i thing it is Amazing, not only amazing easy to use, but also beautiful.

    But i never used the original to compare against
  5. TonicAngel macrumors regular

    Jan 1, 2003
    I love the new iPods. At first I thought they were ugly, but after looking at them for a while I love them now. I think the touchbuttons are easier to hit (when hold button is off) when you are carrying it around, but all in all I think the touch buttons are easier to use. (In my opinion anyways.)
  6. GeeYouEye macrumors 68000


    Dec 9, 2001
    State of Denial
    Re: I hate the new iPods! and why, who agrees?

    If you don't want yours, I'll be happy to take it off your hands for you. I'll even do it for free. ;)
  7. thekaiser macrumors member

    Dec 16, 2002
    Huntington Beach, CA
    I just bought the 15GB. No complaints here. It is my first iPod so I have no basis for comparison. However, I think it is awesome. Plus, I just use the hold button. I am not one to switch songs a lot anyway. When I am listening I am usually doing something. I just let it play. When I do switch songs it is not as big of a deal as some of you make it out to be. Maybe I just have a different opinion of how the iPod should work. All in all it is great. I am sure you can always find an old one if you don't like it. Plus, it is still far ahead of any other companies devices in my humble opinion. Just my 2 cents.
  8. beatle888 macrumors 68000


    Feb 3, 2002
    why did you buy it if you didnt like it. jeeesh.:p sell it and get an older one. its only an mp3 player.
  9. janey macrumors 603


    Dec 20, 2002
    sunny los angeles
    i hated the iPod to the point where i sold the 30gb and decided not to sell my old 10gb on eBay.
    grokgod is right, it is difficult to use.
  10. Grokgod thread starter macrumors 6502a


    Feb 26, 2002
    Deep within the heart of madness!
    whats more~

    Thanks for reposting my entire post merely to state the usual...
    If you don't like it give it to me for nothing,,yawn,,,:)

    Ubergeek~ I think that we agree on the subject of the design NOT being useable.

    I also sold my iPOD < no i didnt give it away for free because I didnt like it!>

    I went back to my original 5 giger.
    Christ if it wasnt a joy to look at and use again. After a few hours of use, the differences tween the two models

    THe original is truly a marvel and an innovation of design that APPLE should have had the intelligence to allow continue to later models.

    I am a designer and am REALLY curious as to why they would make what I consider
    < after careful use of both models >
    an incredibly stupid choice in design.

    The new models in comparison are the example of what should have been rejected! If its not broken dont fix it!

    This is the model that the janitor created while he was fixing the boiler!

    Truly a pathetic moment in APPLE history. Which I wish I could GROK in

    To address those that say, relax its only an MP3 player, i would reply.
    YES , it is only a player...
    and this is only a BB where I am posting that i feel that an innovative design has been destroyed!

    There are so few times when truly inspirational design comes into our lives and influences the way we live.

    For me the iPod was one of those times.
    Its loss has made me ask why?
  11. chewbaccapits macrumors 6502a


    Jul 10, 2001
    Torrance, Californizzel
    Re: whats more~

    Really?...Even worst then the first crappy handwritting recognition feature, found in the PDAs? That's a bold statement.
  12. Grokgod thread starter macrumors 6502a


    Feb 26, 2002
    Deep within the heart of madness!

    I said it was a pathetic moment.

    Not the MOST pathetic! :p
  13. JPGR_Fan macrumors regular


    Apr 5, 2003
    St. Louis
    A few days at most for the new one, a few years for the original?

    I'm still in an ecstatic mode with my first iPod and find your postings painful, but I'll remember what you have stated as I gain experience.

    I will say that the earphones are not comfortable/useable for me.
  14. mmmdreg macrumors 65816


    Apr 14, 2002
    Sydney, Australia
    Re: whats more~

    That is an incredibly stupid thing to say IMHO. The original iMac's design was never "broken" yet they came out with the new ones. If designers followed your lines, the iMac wouldn't have even been invented. However, on the topic of the iPod, it is clearly a subjective issue, although the majority seems to be in favour of them, as I seem to be. Anyhow, humans are an adaptable species. Anyone can adapt to an extent. If you don't like the new iPods because they aren't the old ones, then you are being overly conservative. However, I applaud your decision to buy one without testing it (seemingly). So, it's just oo bad you and her didn't "click". Anyhow, I hope your little 5giger serves you well. But ultimately, if you want more, you're going to have to go new iPod (again) or a different brand.

    An alternative is the sonicblues' rio pearl which is 40gigs and smaller than the iPod by a considerable margin. [​IMG]
  15. Marc the Mac macrumors member

    Jan 6, 2002
    United Kingdom
    So, some feel that the new iPod does not look as good as the previous version.
    I would agree, however.. isn't the reason that the buttons are now positioned the way they are because all front controls are touch-controls?

    With those thinner buttons mounted around the scroll disc I doubt they could have been updatd to touch sensitive and still worked well.
  16. MorganX macrumors 6502a


    Jan 20, 2003
    Re: Re: whats more~

    If iTunes worked with the rio the way it does with the iPod I'd probably buy it. What I would really like is to buy a brand new 10g of the old iPod design, can't find one anywhere.

    Edit: Maybe there will be an iPod classic. I think I'll try and hold out for an aluminum back also. I watched a demo video on ZDnet and the iPod the Apple rep was displaying for the camera was filthy with fingerprints. I thought that was pretty embarrassing.
  17. Anne macrumors member

    Oct 11, 2002
    Re: I hate the new iPods! and why, who agrees?

    I just got my baby yesterday, and I thought I'd write from the perspective of someone who never had an ipod before this.

    ugliness - guess a matter of personal opinion. I kind of like this design. My initial concern when I saw it was that it would be harder for my small hand to reach all the buttons. Not even close to reality - I have no trouble with it at all.

    buttons - hmm, I noticed no "chaotic dance of confusion". Perhaps you need to call Applecare? I found the buttons a delight to use. Just brush my finger over the one I wanted, and it worked perfectly. Maybe I just have better hand eye coordination than most, but I didn't have a problem of hitting buttons I didn't want to hit. (Though I'm still getting used to when I need to hit the menu button and when I need to hit the select button. But I pretty much got the hang of it already.) "slightest breeze sets it off"? I guess you mean that figuratively. I purposely tried to set off the buttons with the protective cloth I had it set on, and they didn't respond. They do seem to only respond to skin contact. I haven't tried blowing on them yet, though. ;) And I was happy to use the remote, personally. I just stuffed all of the cord in my jacket pocket and had a nice little set of buttons to press. Annoying that the cord's so long, but I got over it.

    "Is the screen dimmer, looks dimmer to me! When a song title scrolls it dims out strangely??" - again, maybe time to call Applecare?

    "I have to use the HOLD button now or else! Never had to give hold the least of thought. It was never needed." - is the hold button that hard to use?

    "Is this thing even more scratchable?
    After mere hours of owning it,
    the screen is whacked!
    From what, I have NO idea.
    My pockets are clean and I was treating it better than my own life!" Maybe try putting it in a case? Because in my wisdom, I'm sure that Apple tried their hardest to make your ipod even more scratchable than the rest, just to make you angry. :rolleyes: Mine has a few fingerprints (which I easily wiped off), but no scratches. I put it in a case when I carried it around. And put it on a little piece of cloth on when I set it down. I'm sure it will get scratches eventually, and I'm positive that they will not lessen the quality of sound, or the capacity of my ipod...

    "Of course, I liked the size which is smaller.
    BUT not with less battery power!
    The extra 3 hours or more that I had on my first suddenly looks crucial, to enjoying this unit to its fullest." I thought that 10-8 is 2, not 3. If you got more than 10 hours on your first ipod, what makes you think that you won't get more than 8 hours on this ipod?

    If you look for things to complain about, you'll always find them. I think that that, not little scratches or sensitive buttons or anything else is what will really keep you from enjoying your music....

    This is my first ipod and i couldn't be happier. It's tiny, it holds all of my music with plenty of room to spare, it comes with accessories that add more functionality, and it's darn cute to boot! And if it gets scratches, oh well. (I don't hate myself because of a few wrinkles or zits.) If I have to flick the hold button once before and once after an hour long walk, oh well. If I have to take an extra 2.5 seconds to wrap extra cord around the case, oh well. I think I'll live with that and not let it preventing me from enjoying my otherwise wonderful ipod...
  18. szark macrumors 68030


    May 14, 2002
    I'm really enjoying my new iPod, but I do understand some of the points expressed here.

    As far as the buttons, I have had some minor problems with repetitive presses or accidental presses. Unfortunately, I think this is due to people's differing body chemistry -- some people have more problems with electrically-sensitive touch pads than others.

    The button relocation probably also made it easier/possible to light the buttons, though the old design made it easier to find the buttons without having to see them.

    Some people change songs frequently and need constant access to the controls -- they will probably be happier with the original design, unless they like using the remote. Other people, such as myself, tend to listen to long, uninterrupted playlists and do not require constant access to the controls.

    It all depends on how you use it. :)
  19. idkew macrumors 68020


    Sep 26, 2001
    where the concrete to dirt ratio is better
    Re: I hate the new iPods! and why, who agrees?

    i reccomend you learn the english language.
  20. bitfactory macrumors 6502


    Jul 22, 2002
    i second that - i bought a 15GB last friday night... after 4 days of intense use, i pulled my 10GB model off of eBay and will sell my new 15GB instead.

    i can understand why those who didn't own the first one might be impressed with the new one. i, however, am not. as a matter of fact - its a huge step backwards in human factors, ergonomics, and usability. after owning all of Apples major hardware releases for just about a decade, i can say this is the only product i've purchased that i'm not satisfied with.

    don't get me wrong, its sexy-looking - but functionally, i despise when engineers try to fix something that's not broken.

    oh - did i mention how much more fragile the new model feels? the fit/finish of the older model is far superior to the new one, IMO.

    all in all, its still the best mp3 player made today (by a MILE), but after using the v1, its hard to go backwards.
  21. beatle888 macrumors 68000


    Feb 3, 2002
    i got one thing to say to you people...TRY IT OUT AT THE APPLE STORE/RETAILER BEFORE YOU BUY. jeeze i cant believe how willing people are to part with their cash.
  22. bitfactory macrumors 6502


    Jul 22, 2002
    i tried it out and thought i'd get used to the buttons (which i did) - a warning to other folks - you may get used to new buttons, but that doesn't mean you'll end up preferring them.
  23. redAPPLE macrumors 68030


    May 7, 2002
    2 Much Infinite Loops
    Re: Re: whats more~

    THAT THING IS UGLY!!!!!!!!!!!!

    could someone please delete :D that thing...


    i have been reading through this interesting thread (imo). i had the original 5 gb iPod. i loved it (despite the scratches). then i started losing playing time (i think, that was the software issue).

    i haven't seen the new one in person yet. i, too, was disappointed that they placed those buttons there (there were rumors, remember?).

    maybe the thing that i would find positive, is the slimmer case. maybe the longer battery life.

    now my question to uebergeek and grokgod is...

    is there really nothing positive you guys could find? is it really like saying, id rather use the Apple II than use a Windows Computer??

    i plan to buy an iPod, but u guys made me think. i guess, i should say thank you, for sharing your thoughts.
  24. gopher macrumors 65816

    Mar 31, 2002
    Maryland, USA
    To all those who complain about the new iPod's sensitivity to
    button presses, the new iPod has a Hold button on top, though slightly different in its design from the original. In anycase, the hold button idea dates back from some of the first portable CD players and maybe even the first portable tape players. It prevents any button pressing from being registered. So if you are worried the button pressed might be the wrong one, put it on hold until you are actually ready to look at the iPod and work with it. Granted, it would be nice to press the right button while in your pocket, but you could just as easily press the wrong one too even with the old one. I'd rather look at what I'm doing than play guesswork.
  25. mowgli212 macrumors newbie

    May 5, 2003
    40 gb Sonicblue Rio Pearl - Where?

    Where the heck do you find this thing? I went to SonicBlue's website - no mention at all. Then I did a Google search and nothing! Where did you get the ad with that picture and where do I find this thing?

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