I have completely had it

Discussion in 'General Mac Discussion' started by iH8Quark, Aug 6, 2002.

  1. iH8Quark macrumors 6502

    Jan 17, 2002
    Big Shoulders
    with OS X. Yes it looks great, and it's "fun". But it is totally annoying. I've tried installing it from a zeroed hard drive, installed it every which way except upside down, and my computer still crashes more than JFK Jr. Between that and corrupted preferences (especially stickies!!!), and having to make new users, and then being locked out of my files, you can take this operating system...

    edit - this post has been edited to optimum political correctness to discourage angered behavior.
  2. Shrek macrumors 65816


    Jul 23, 2002
    Nashville, Tennessee USA
  3. Ensign Paris macrumors 68000

    Ensign Paris

    Nov 4, 2001
    I personally would have waited until I had tried OSX.2 before I started complaining but I would advise you have your machine looked at by a repair shop because I am not aware of this being a main stream problem, or atleast I don't have it.

    Good luck with OS9.2 or Windows if u go that far.

  4. iH8Quark thread starter macrumors 6502

    Jan 17, 2002
    Big Shoulders
    not switching to windows. but OS X is the most counterproductive operating system I have ever used. The only other time I have evr had this many crashes is on y windows box when Photoshop 4 had a memory leak and it would crash every time you tried to save.

    (those of you that remember that will know of the insanity that this causes).
  5. King Cobra macrumors 603

    Mar 2, 2002
    I'm guessing you have a hardware issue. I'm not saying I can help you, but which computer are you installing OS X on? Which version of OS X are you installing? How much RAM is in the computer? Did you get the RAM from places with defective RAM? Is any other hardware not properly connected?
  6. Mr. Anderson Moderator emeritus

    Mr. Anderson

    Nov 1, 2001
    I'm sorry to hear all the problems you've been having. I wish I knew more about OSX so I could help, but maybe if you explained what's happening more specifically - what type of machine, memory, etc., there might be something that someone else sees and knows how to fix.

    I've got OSX on my TiPB and love it - I'll be getting Jaguar when it comes out and put it on my 450 G4 aswell. I've not had any real problems so far and find it much more stable than OS9.

  7. iH8Quark thread starter macrumors 6502

    Jan 17, 2002
    Big Shoulders
    It's my home machine.

    DP 500 MHz
    512 MB RAM (factory from Apple)
    No extra PCI cards
    Apple studio display
    Factory 40 Gig HD
    Factory mouse / keyboard
    Apple-installed Zip
    External Firewire HD (this problem existed long before the HD was attached)

    Certainly seems run-of-the-mill to me
  8. swahilibill macrumors 6502

    Feb 24, 2002
    Highlands Ranch
    Re: I have completely had it

    STOP BITCHING!!!! Nobody here cares if you are just gonna put down Apple, how bout you ask for help or something because oSX is the greatest OS there is out there,and any question can be answered!
  9. iH8Quark thread starter macrumors 6502

    Jan 17, 2002
    Big Shoulders
    sorry to double post.

    But, I, too, have a TiBook. OS X has never crashed one time on my TiBook. But this Rev A DP machine is like the bubonic plague, and I've had it. I bring motion work home with me, and find the machine so unreliable it's not even worth it to try.
  10. MacAztec macrumors 68040


    Oct 28, 2001
    San Luis Obispo, CA

    Im on Jaguar GM right now, on a G4 500MHz with ATI Radeon 8500, and 4 HardDrives. I have had not one problem yet.

    I know what you talk about when stuff says it is "owned by the system or root" and you cant do anything with it. It changed in 10.2. You just get info, go to priveleges, and you CAN change that.

    And all the other stuff you said about crashes? Try defragging your drive, with a 10.2 CD when it is released.

    oh yea, it has USB printer sharing :)
  11. GPTurismo macrumors 6502

    May 4, 2001
    Montgomery, AL USA
    Maybe the problem is between the seat and the keyboard?


  12. AlphaTech macrumors 601


    Oct 4, 2001
    Natick, MA

    He could also be getting an ID 10t error... :eek: :p :D

    I would suggesting making 100% certain that the firmware is fully up to date. Install 9.2.2 FIRST, then (on the same partition ya mook) install OS X 10.1.x and update it all the way to 10.1.5. Also, zap/reset the PRAM (Apple+option+p+r), give it 3 or so chimes before releasing the keyboard. Also, reset the open firmware (Apple+option+o+f and then type in "reset-all"). You can do both of the resets BEFORE you install OS X. You also need to have 9.2.2 (or at least 9.x) in order to update the firmware.

    BTW, do NOT blame Apple/OS X if your computer has issues with OS X. I am running 10.1.5 on an iMac 350MHz at work and have had NO crashes. It only has 192MB of memory, so don't think it's a memory amount issue.

    Do you have the memory in one chip of more??? You could have a memory chip that is not OS X compatible. THAT will show up after you update the firmware (it won't be addressed and the system profiler will list it as not compatible).

    I second the above posts about asking for help instead of bytching about OS X and Apple being crap... :rolleyes:
  13. ponyboy macrumors regular

    Jan 27, 2002
    SLC UT/Italy
    So is OSX a POS in your opinion or what? You just contradicted yourself with this post it has "never" crashed on your Tibook? Well mine either. Obviously your pissed and a crashing computer is a good reason to be but listen to yourself you know it isnt the OS there is an obvious machine problem and I know next to nothing about that stuff but: OSX crashes all the time on machine A + OSX never crashes on machine B (or C-Z for that matter) does not = POS. That is as easy as 1+1. There are a bunch of people who will help you out here so relax a little.
  14. neilt macrumors regular

    May 28, 2002
    Phoenix, AZ
    You still didn't supply all necessary info.

    Which version of OS X are you using? there have been several
    10.0 -> 10.1.5

    How do you connect to the internet?
    do you do dialup, dsl, cable, straight ethernet?

    i am pretty sure there was an issue with the dp 500's using modems to connect to the internet.

  15. bousozoku Moderator emeritus

    Jun 25, 2002
    Gone but not forgotten.
    AlphaTech's ideas on resetting Open Firmware and Parameter RAM make the most sense first. Considering that I've had a few bumps early on and nothing since then, I'd say it's a hardware problem that you're having. Your success with your laptop machine would confirm that, as well.

    I'm running Mac OS X 10.1.5 with the latest security updates on a G3/400 and a dual processor G4/800. Both are extremely steady with 512 MB.
  16. iH8Quark thread starter macrumors 6502

    Jan 17, 2002
    Big Shoulders
    running 10.1.5

    firmware version 4.2.8

    connect to internet using static IP broadband connection via ethernet / router.

    what happens when I reset my open firmware? I seem to have the latest firmware version for this computer.
  17. Hemingray macrumors 68030


    Jan 9, 2002
    Ha ha haaa!
    You could also try punching the CUDA switch... :::mysterious music plays:::
  18. MacMaster macrumors 6502

    Jul 17, 2002
    ...for a good 30 seconds...That usually helps me with getting rid of some random crashes on my system(see my profile)...
  19. iH8Quark thread starter macrumors 6502

    Jan 17, 2002
    Big Shoulders
    CUDA switch????
  20. Rower_CPU Moderator emeritus


    Oct 5, 2001
    San Diego, CA
    On the mobo, next to the battery...

    …like others have said, it's a hardware problem that needs sorting, don't be so quick to blame OS X.:)
  21. iJon macrumors 604


    Feb 7, 2002
    Shut up man!

    Your just to stupid to realize its not the operating system but your computer. I have used Mac OS X ever since the developer preview 4 like 3 years ago and still dont have any problems. Your the only one bitching on this server. Take your computer into an authorized apple service center and get it fixed you idiot. Once you do that come back and talk to us.
  22. iH8Quark thread starter macrumors 6502

    Jan 17, 2002
    Big Shoulders
    Re: Shut up man!

    yes, and you're an intolerant imbecile. Oh wait...you're from arkansas, you might not know what that word means.

    newbies shouldn't talk junk. you haven't paid your dues. obviously you haven't been around here long if you think i'm the only one complaining on this server.

    so take your name-calling back to mommy, redneck. :rolleyes:
  23. djwoolf macrumors member

    Dec 19, 2001
    New Orleans, LA
    Come on ppl lets bring it down a notch or two... Yes, starting a thread with a bitching, ranting rave isnt nice, but speaking down to this guy wont help any. Were all friends here so just chill out. Work the problem not the person.
    That said...
    Heres what the general consensus:
    Possible Hardware Complications:
    Incompatable RAM
    Firmware not Up to date
    Possible instablitity w/ Computer model

    Ok the open firmware and PRAM soundlike good options but i have never used the ..."CUDA switch" try all these and if it doesnt work then take it to an apple service center

    Lets all play nice now huh?
  24. iH8Quark thread starter macrumors 6502

    Jan 17, 2002
    Big Shoulders
    Thank you to everyone who had constructive things to say. Sorry for the ranting. I lost some tragically important notes due to a corrupted preference. Still not sure what happens when i reset my open firmware, but I'll give it a go.

    That CUDA thing sounds kinda scary.

    I'll let you know how it turns out. :)
  25. AlphaTech macrumors 601


    Oct 4, 2001
    Natick, MA
    The CUDA should only be used as a weapon of last resort... Zapping the pram and resetting the [open] firmware will alleviate about 95% of problems related to such items. When you boot the computer into OS 9.x, make sure that the 'check memory on startup' option is turned on in the memory control panel (hold down the apple+option keys when selecting/opening that control panel.

    Since it looks like you are at the most recent firmware, I really would check out your memory... How many chips are inside that box??? Still waiting for an answer on that one. :p

    BTW, don't be afraid of resetting the open firmware... it doesn't hurt, really it doesn't [much]. :eek: :eek: :p :D

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