http://www.edig.com/news/releases/pr072202.html I found this lil' bugger yesterday. it's quite an ugly iPod Ripoff. Bums me out. It's pretty darn blatant, even in the interface.... but didn't Apple license the interface software from a third party??? I could see them getting in a tangle over the body shape and design, but what of the interface? Anyone know? In any case, it's UGLY.