I don't think anyone in the US besides AT&T will EVER get the iPhone. I don't think Verizon even had talks in the first place, they just want to be in the whole discussion in case just MAYBE one day it'll happen. I don't think people understand that these places like T-Mobile and Verizon AREN'T ready for the iPhone. Yes, you can get them on their servers, but you're doing more harm than good. AT&T knows that there'll be 5MB+ worth of data passing through a single MMS, but at a place like T-Mobile, it's like sending 5 texts. Why are people so selfish about getting a better deal for the iPhone when soon enough you'll get kicked out for 1) Using a phone that wasn't originally provided by the carrier, 2) hogging the 3G network with 1GB worth of data everyday. People that were using an iPhone under the Sidekick plan eventually got their data switched off, don't think it wouldn't happen with the other carriers. The iPhone is MADE for the internet, the sharing of pictures, the saving a buck by having visual voicemail, and the desktop like internet. Android, Blackberry, Windows are just catching up with that. They are however very much still business phones. There is a reason why AT&T was preferred over the others. They can handle the demand, and while you may THINK Verizon can too, just remember that out of the MILLIONS of iPhones out there, there is probably only 1-5 in each city that are unlocked to them. What happens when 5 million show up? You have the same problems and/or worse of that of AT&T. Heck, the T-Mobile have a lot of downtime, they just wouldn't work if everyone had an iPhone with them. People are asking too much of their carriers to even support the iPhone at this point. I mean, there's a good reason why you can't get it as a GoPhone upfront anymore. On most phones, the G3 kicks in once you open the browser, the iPhone one is on at ALL times if you're on the go, standby G3 on it's own is just a mess - at least I'd believe it to be. Until Apple actually starts to WORK with these providers to establish the basic capabilities of the phone, it's just talk and nothing else.