ibook G4 (dead monitor) transfer to MBP

Discussion in 'MacBook Pro' started by wadada, Oct 11, 2012.

  1. wadada macrumors newbie

    Nov 26, 2009
    Hi All,

    Searched and couldn't quite find the right answer...

    I have 04ish ibook G4 that the monitor died on. It boots up still, and I can mount the hard drive in target mode on my new (used) '10 macbook pro 13", but I don't have permission to access to the user files to transfer to the MBP. Migration Ass't didn't work for me, and for some reason the Time Machine backups didn't seem to backup all of our music.

    What can I do to be able to drag stuff from the G4 to the MBP? Do I need to somehow turn on sharing on the G4? Do I need to get an external monitor? Is there a way to hook up the two and have them communicate not in target mode?


    And thanks!

  2. bluespaceoddity, Oct 11, 2012
    Last edited: Oct 11, 2012

    bluespaceoddity macrumors regular

    Jun 14, 2009

    If you don't want to fiddle with Permissions on the iBook, hooking up an external monitor is probably easiest.

    A bit more complicated but ... enabling "VoiceOver" (⌘ + fn + F5 key) for Universal Access allows you to navigate the iBook without seeing anything on the screen. The iBook will speak to you and announce which OS elements are selected as you move mouse and cursor. Depending on what you want to do there are different mouse / cursor / return key etc actions that you can use to perform certain actions without seeing the screen. You could use that to go into into System Preferences > Sharing and turn on Personal File Sharing on the iBook by using these Voice Over Universal access tools. After turning on Personal File Sharing on the iBook you can then log in to each user account on the iBook from the Macbook Pro on the same network.


    Another edit with a possible route using VoiceOver:
    Connect the iBook and the Macbook Pro to the same network
    Turn them both on
    On the iBook use ⌘ + fn + F5 key to enable VoiceOver.
    Move the mouse cursor all the way up and all the way to the left side of the screen then click the Mouse to open the Apple Menu in the Menu Bar. A Voice will tell you if you clicked in the right spot.

    Use the down arrow on the keyboard to move in the drop down menu to the item System Preferences. (VoiceOver will announce the other items you pass along the way ...)
    Use the return key to open System Preferences
    Use the Tab key to jump to the Sharing button (VoiceOver will announce the other System Preferencs you pass)
    Hit the Space bar to open the Sharing preference pane
    Use Tab to jump around and go to the Services Table
    Use the Down Arrow to go down the list of services until you come to File Sharing
    Hit the Space Bar to turn File Sharing on

    Wait a few moments for the service to turn on and for the iBook to show up in the Finder sidebar (or under Network etc) on the Macbook Pro. You should now be able to access the accounts on the iBook by using Connect As (Using log in name and passwords of the accounts for the iBook users)
  3. wadada thread starter macrumors newbie

    Nov 26, 2009
  4. wadada thread starter macrumors newbie

    Nov 26, 2009
    I mounted the hard drive in TDM, and chose "ignore ownership on this volume" in the info box, but now I can't find any of the files!

    There are three folders in the "users" folder: "guest", the username we used, and "shared". Our username's folder is empty, the Shared has "Citrix" and "Library" in it, and the Guest folder has the full list of folders where files would be, but they are empty.

    Going to track down a monitor.

    Is one of these the cable I'd need to connect the ibook to an external monitor?

    Thanks again for the advice!
  5. bluespaceoddity macrumors regular

    Jun 14, 2009
    Which cable to use depends on the connector in the monitor to which you want to hook up. iBooks came with a VGA adapter but other adapters are available to hook up its video output port to different connectors as well.

    If you have neither an adapter nor extra screen or cables to hook up to an external computer monitor or your tv anyway I recommend trying the regular file sharing route first - although via VoiceOver. Which really isn't as complicated as it sounds.

    In fact, you can turn VoiceOver on right after starting up the iBook by itself and then navigate around to see if the files are still on its hard disk before you even hook it up to the MBP or attempt to transfer anything.

    Just in case.
    The screen brightness isn't completely turned down by any chance, is it?
    If the back light is off or broken but the screen itself isn't dead then you can also use a flashlight or desk light to read from the darkened screen.
  6. wadada thread starter macrumors newbie

    Nov 26, 2009
    Okay, I've set up an external monitor, so I can access the ibook.

    Problem now is, how do I share files between the computers? Migration Assistant doesn't seem to see any of the files on the ibook. The ibook works just fine, and everything is there.

    I'm trying to setup file sharing beetween the two, and they see each other, but it asks me for a password when I try to connect them. The password I use to login as the user (each computer has just on user) doesn't work. How do I find the password to use?
  7. mgartner0622 macrumors 65816


    Jun 6, 2010
    Colorado, USA
    Can you do reverse target disk mode? i.e. put the macbook in target disc, mount it on the iBook, then drag the files you want to it.
  8. doot4runner macrumors newbie

    Aug 30, 2010
    what about just using an external hard drive to move your files over?
  9. bluespaceoddity, Oct 18, 2012
    Last edited: Oct 18, 2012

    bluespaceoddity macrumors regular

    Jun 14, 2009
    Once File Sharing is enabled on the iBook you can continue from the MBP.
    In the Finder of the MBP you use the name and password of the iBook account to connect to the iBook. That should enable you to drag files over to the MBP from the MBP Finder.

    You can use:
    MBP Finder > GO menu (in Menubar) > Connect to Server (⌘k)
    (Use the information provided in the File Sharing Preference Pane on the iBook:
    File Sharing: On - Other Users can use shared folders on this computer, and Administrators all volumes, at afp://xx.xx.xx.xx/ or "Your Computer Name".)

    Use account name and password of the iBook to log into it.


    Use the Finder Side bar if the iBook name shows up there. (Depends on OS and the way you set Finder Preferences what Network or shared computers show up and where in you MBP Finder Sidebar.)
    (if you're logged in as "guest" for the iBook you'll only see the iBook's Public folders. In that case click Log out and use the Log In As button - enter the user account name and password for your iBook account to see the entire content of the iBook.)
    (You could also drag everything you want to share to the iBook's public folder and conect only to that but that's an extra step which shouldn't be required.)

    If none of that works perhaps you can describe in a little more detail the method and steps you use to connect and when the connection process fails. How are the two connected? Wireless? Directly via Ethernet cable? Ethernet cables to Router of home network? Firewire cable? ...

    Late Edit with Afterthought.
    You mentioned that not all your music was showing up in your backup. If music is one of you primary concerns you could try enabling Sharing inside iTunes (iBook > iTunes > Preferences > Sharing > Share Library on Local Network) and then transfer music from the iBook by importing items not in your MBP iTunes Library from the shared iBook Library.
  10. wadada thread starter macrumors newbie

    Nov 26, 2009
    Thanks, bluespaceoddity for the detailed responses! Very helpful! I wound up finding where most of the music was. It's in a folder entitled "music" within the "itunes music" folder, amongst a few dozen album folders.

    I will try your suggestions for connecting, but now I think maybe the sparsebundles in the time machine backups might actually be complete...
  11. skitzogreg macrumors 6502


    Oct 31, 2007
    You should be able to simply access the data with an external hard drive enclosure. I've never had permissions issues this way; it could be worth a shot.

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