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Discussion in 'macOS' started by Dallious, Oct 16, 2011.
Not sure if this has been talked about yet, but is icloud possible in SL? thanks
Sorry, no it is not
Previously there had been rumors about a Snow Leopard 10.6.9 that included iCloud, but it seems that has been cancelled.
Because I've updated to iOS 5, I need to upgrade from SL to Lion. Well, I don't have to but to get full benefit of iCloud syncing I need to.
somewhat disappointed that iCloud is only supported in Lion. Honestly bums me out that SL can't utilize iCloud also??
Haven't decided to make the Lion upgrade yet
reading a lot of mixed reviews about it.
It is in Apple's best interest to have iCloud Lion only. It will motivate more users who have not embraced Lion to go onto that platform. They (apple) have a long history of not providing new features to legacy products, like operating systems.
I have to disagree.
To a certain extent not supporting iCloud in Snow Leopard is just another black mark against Apple IMO.
There are many customers out there who have MobileMe accounts that as of June next year will cease to work, and even now there are problems with mobileme due to iCloud's introduction.
Many people simply cannot upgrade to Lion just yet due to incompatibility with important software/hardware and simply closing the door on these customers shows how faceless and money hungry Apple really are.
Lion is now required for quite a few things, and as long as your Mac will run it and despite a lot of negative reports here....I'd go with it. Personally, I've had no issues at all, apart from some minor grumbles at the new OS, the only thing I miss is the nice Snow Leopard image ) it is as posted, in Apples interests going forward to include new features with the new OS.
Given the huge number of Mac users embracing Lion, as documented by Apple, I'd say that number of people who cannot upgrade is not as large you may think and will be shrinking as the year progresses.
Lion is the future, love or hate it, and you cannot expect any company to add new features to an OS that has been replaced
... Windows Vista?
What about it?
If you're inferring that Lion is apple's Vista. May I suggest that same criticism was leveled against Snow Leopard when it came out and unlike Vista, Lion has been a rousing success for apple. Millions of copies have been sold and by and large the Mac community has mostly embraced it given its meteoric adoption rate.
I think he is referring to Vista supporting iCloud where Apple dropped it for SL, IE so soon.
Gotcha, I was unaware of such support.
That is exactly why I've switched by calendars to Google Calendars instead of using Apples MobileMe or iCloud. I was happy with MobileMe but iCloud Calendars and Address Book does not sync with Snow Leopard and I'm not going to switch to Lion's crappy UI just for calendar syncing. iCloud doesn't need to fully support Snow Leopard, but it should support syncing services that already existed, i.e. iCal, Address Book, etc.
Overall, you can't trust Apple to maintain continuity and you can't trust Apple to produce the a quality product worth upgrading to with Steve gone.
I was Also
Unaware of Vista
Steve's lack of presence has nothing to do with this. He promised with iTools that the service was going to be free, then apple started to charge it when it went though the next incarnation. Then they dropped the .mac and went to .me (though they have not totally gotten rid of .mac yet). As for quality, just go back in time with the roll out of mobile me. It was a dud and a disaster.
So iCloud service having issues is not a new phenomenon and apple's lack of continuity with its email/cloud strategy is nothing new either
It doesn't make sense for SL *not* to support iCloud. It's another revenue stream for Apple (extra storage).
I'd give Apple some time to get the stress off the servers and work some bugs out. Maybe then they'll make this possible for SL users to use it.
Lets see, icloud supports Win 7, and supports Vista, next it will support XP before it supports SL, wouldnt be shocked nice move apple
Could someone please explain what Lion can do in regards to iCloud that SL cannot? I'm on Snow Leopard and I thought that accessing the iCloud Site and viewing backed up content from there was essentially all iCloud is.
What can Lion do with iCloud that Snow Leopard can't?
That may be Apple's stance, although not sure if it's just your opinion or fact. However it's not a smart move coming from a IT standpoint where you never force users to move to a newer OS that hasn't had all their major bugs worked out yet, just to have access to a feature, and not a core component of that OS. How does it ever make sense to move someone away from a very solid and working platform (SL) to move to a buggy product that hasn't even had it's first major overhaul/update (Lion), just to have iCloud? Just to get people to spend a meager $29?
Apple needs to change their advertising and refrain from using "It just works" or "The World's most advanced OS" to "It used to work, we know about it but we'll never tell you when we'll make it work again" or "Upgrade, it's cheap, because in 2 years you'll need to upgrade again for some other silly feature".
If it wasn't for the fact that iCloud is proving to be just as disappointing as MobileMe, I'd actually might feel like I'm missing out on something that was meant to be somewhat decent.
The new phenomena I'm referring to is the lack of "taste" in the operating system itself. Mission Control's small icons, split screen, inability to show everything at once, etc. Address Books change to look like my grandma's address book and only showing two columns of information at at time. iCal's stupid and ugly "leather" texture at the top and the removal of month calendar while in Week view. The inability to support multiple monitors in Full Screen View in Lion while multiple monitor support of Full Screen View in Snow Leopard as at the developer's discretion. Inability to turn off versions along with the an excessive amount of Dialog Boxes to do simple things as a result of Version's poor implementation.
These are not bugs, these are poor quality design decisions on a level that I never saw when Jobs around and healthy enough to run the company. Apple used to make powerful software the looked simple. The latest UI in Lion is merely simplistic software that ruins its powerful potential. It's like working on Windows ME.
While the MobileMe roll-out was a disaster, at least continuity was maintained between operating systems as far as I remember. I see no such continuity in iCloud for basic syncing services.
Overall it comes down to the fact that Apple is a hardware company and not a service company. As such, you cannot count of their service being available for very long and I doubt that you can count on Apple creating a better OS than Windows for very much longer without Steve Jobs around saying "No" to every bad design decision.
iOS 5, Lion and iCloud are why I no longer have to use Informant for iPad and iPhone. For me, this combination was the "must have" feature that got me to upgrade to Lion.
It has always been a pain keeping calendars synced and using Google Calendar, while a little better, was still not perfect. Mostly because items sent through mail, or dates found on the web, wanted to come in as iCal objects. This mean the native Calendar app. If I wanted it in Google Calendar it had to be manually entered.
Now I no longer have that problem. If it were only so simple to get my office computer, running Windows 2003 Server to use the iCloud control panel applet I'd be set.
Do you sincerely regard Snow Leopard as "legacy"????
I don't think the term is defined by maflynn, the term legacy for SL appears to be defined by Apple themselves. I agree that SL being not much more than 2 years old being considered legacy is quite ridiculous.
3.53% SL users vs 1.41% Lion users according to netmarketshare.com
Not a good idea to give the shaft to more than double the number of Lion users.
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Why would Apple not want to add value (i.e., iCloud) to a product they want you to buy (i.e., Lion)? Folks have already bought SL. It's not available any more. There's no more money in it for Apple.
Honestly... some of you people think Apple is a public service or some kind of government agency that owes you something.