iPhone iCloud photos.

Discussion in 'iOS 11' started by lyceumHQ, Dec 28, 2017.

  1. lyceumHQ macrumors 65816

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    So I’ve always use iTunes to backup and restore my phone and arrange my pics on the PC.

    One of my biggest gripes with the iPhone is that there’s still no way to organise your photos on the phone itself. You HAVE to use a PC/MAC.

    So having always used iTunes I thought I’d give iCloud photo’s a go. When I turned it on it removed over 2k photos I’d synced via iTunes. I then had to wait whilst the exact same pictures it had just deleted uploaded to iCloud. Which is idiotic quite frankly. Why not just sync them.

    Once that was done despite them being in albums and arranged on the pc they were all just thrown in an ‘all photos’ album on the phone.

    So I spent hours sorting them yet again in to the albums they were in originally.

    Only to then find I can’t delete them from ‘all photos’ without it deleting them entirely from my phone. Plus it puts all the pics you take with your camera in this ‘all photos’ folder.

    So what I ended up with was a folder with 2k Unsorted pics in and duplicates of those pictures in albums. And three hours of time wasted.

    Surely that can’t be right? Please someone tell me I’m an idiot and have done it completely wrong?

    All I want is to be able to snap a pic then move that pic in to the correct album should I wish to keep it.

    Is iCloud photos basically just shoving them all in one album and leaving it like that?
     
  2. cyb3rdud3 macrumors 65816

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    You are an idiot and have done it completely wrong :p
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    In my experience, there is definitely an all photos 'album' however you can also keep virtual copies within albums. For me, that works perfectly and I didn't have to do anything special for that. I'm sorry as that may not be helpful, but it literally was that simple...Drag photos into one or more albums, then I see the same on iCloud and my phone and my ipad...
     
  3. lyceumHQ thread starter macrumors 65816

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    Yeah I know I could organise the pics into folders but they all still remain in the ‘all photos’ folder do they not? So I essentially have two copies of the same pic (I know I don’t as it’s the same pic just ‘in’ a folder but that’s what it looks like). And if I delete the pic from ‘all photos’ it also deletes it from the album I’ve organised it in to? Is that correct?

    What I want is separate folders and a camera roll with the ability to move pictures from the camera roll in to created albums and not separate folders plus one ‘all photos’ folder with literally every picture I’ve ever taken with my phone in. In a big jumbled up mess.

    Is what I want actually possible??
     
  4. Puonti macrumors 6502a

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    No, that’s not possible with iCloud Photo Library.
     
  5. cyb3rdud3 macrumors 65816

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    No you can't - but if you don't like all photos then simply don't look at it ;) I rarely ever do, but sometimes it can be handy if you are looking for that one photo and want to search for it...
     
  6. GreyOS macrumors 68040

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    I’m not seeing the issue. All Photos is what it says it is. If you never want to view them like that then don’t. There aren’t duplicate photos. You can add photos to multiple albums and they’re not duplicated.
     
  7. lyceumHQ thread starter macrumors 65816

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    Thanks. I can’t not look at it. It’s just there where my camera roll should be. Hey ho, it was worth trying.

    Will just stick to iTunes.

    The issue is I don’t like it. Obviously if you don’t mind it then that’s absolutely fine. But I do. We don’t need to agree about it.
     
  8. cyb3rdud3 macrumors 65816

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    Really? On my phone, it sticks to the previous screen. I just tried it and launched photos and I got straight to moment which is the same view as the camera roll was...Or now I left it on Albums and when I launch it again it goes straight back to Albums...There is no need to ever look at all photos...But hey the choice is yours...
     
  9. GreyOS macrumors 68040

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    Just think if it as a saved search of all photos rather than an album.

    Or

    Your idea that a photo should exist in an album rather than ‘tagged’ with an album leads to duplication. What if you have an album ‘best of 2017’ and ‘best of Christmas 2017’ - you might have a photo you’d like in both. You want the photo in each album, which is duplication. Instead, the photo exists once and is tagged with those two albums. The photo exists in a flat list of all photos.

    We don’t need to agree, just trying to help you think about it in a different way
     
  10. BrettDS macrumors 65816

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    I felt the same way. Over the years I’ve made half hearted efforts to try to organize the photos on my phone into albums, but I would wind up with some photos that weren’t in albums and with thousands of photos on the phone it was hard to keep up with everything.

    A while ago I found a great app called Slidebox. It will present you with each picture on your phone that is not already in an album. You can then easily drop the picture into an album or delete it. Once it stops showing you pictures then everything on your phone is organized into albums.

    Every few weeks I’ll go into the app and sort through the pictures that I’ve taken recently. Since it only shows pictures that aren’t already in albums it will only show the new pictures.
     
  11. cyb3rdud3 macrumors 65816

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    That is a great tip - I'll check it out...
     
  12. lyceumHQ thread starter macrumors 65816

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    After you’ve sorted the pics are they still all in the all photos folder?
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    I think because I don’t have albums like that. I’ve organised my photos in a certain way since I first got a PC age 16 twenty years ago.

    I already have albums and all photos I take if I want to keep them already have a pre defined album they will fit in.
     
  13. cyb3rdud3 macrumors 65816

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    Yes they will still be in a All Photos since all Photos does a query of All your photos ;)

    Remember you always only have one physical copy, the rest is simply meta data with pointers to that one copy. It’s a good thing ;)
     
  14. BrettDS macrumors 65816

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    Unfortunately they do always stay in the all photos folder. I rather wish there was a good way to hide some pictures from there really.

    But the point is that by using the app you can make sure that all of your pictures are organized into other folders. That was the part I would struggle with. I would have some pictures organized into albums and some lost in the great mass of all photos. But now I know that all my pictures are in albums, so it’s easy to find them and I just ignore the all photos folder. I can find the photos I need in the albums they should be in.
     
  15. lyceumHQ thread starter macrumors 65816

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    See I’ve got that part sorted. I have all my pics sorted in to albums so when I want to keep a pic it’s just a case of putting them in to the correct folder.

    I could deal with the ‘all photos’ if it was deprecate from the camera roll but having to scroll through 2-3k pics to get to the one I just took is too much for me. So I’ll stick to iTunes.
     
  16. BrettDS macrumors 65816

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    But that’s the beauty of this app. After you take a few pictures you go into the app and it will only show you the pictures that aren’t in folders. So assuming your other existing pictures are already sorted into folders, then you’ll only see the pictures you just took. No scrolling through 3000 pictures to find the new ones. The new ones will be right there waiting for you to sort them into folders too.
     
  17. cyb3rdud3 macrumors 65816

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    I’m getting really curious as to what your workflow actually is...My photos on iCloud are going back to mid-nineties at the moment, the photos I’ve just took are right there. No need to scroll through lots of pictures. I can’t help but think something that may be totally obvious to me but not to you is being missed here...
     
  18. Puonti macrumors 6502a

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    That’s not how it works on my iPhone or iPad. When I go to Photos -> Albums -> All Photos, I’m shown the newest photos I’ve taken or synced via iCloud Photo Library. The bottom of the list. Always.
     
  19. GreyOS macrumors 68040

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    As an additional tip, tapping the Album tab on the bottom right while viewing an album (such as All Photos) will scroll you down to the bottom.
     
  20. lyceumHQ thread starter macrumors 65816

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    That is literally amazing! Like the first time I found out it about tap to the top!!

    Game changer.
     
  21. trikotret macrumors regular

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    When I switched from an Android phone to iPhone, it was hard for me to deal with all pictures in one album. I kinda got used to it now. Now it still annoys me that all pictures and screen shots get placed in that all pictures album. It be nice if you can move pictures from the all picture album into other albums and not keeping them in all photos album.
     
  22. GreyOS, Jan 3, 2018
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    In android, is there no way to view all photos in a flat list?
     
  23. IowaLynn macrumors 65816

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    Google at least with its organization, you don't move or copy, it just creates a link pointing at the "real" photo. And you can have as many alias links as you want, but you are not copying or moving anything. I think MS OneDrive is the same. But at least with those it will sync.
     
  24. jhuynh macrumors regular

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    It's called "all photos" for a reason... If it was possible to make it not show every photo then it wouldn't be named that.
     
  25. BrettDS macrumors 65816

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    I understand that it’s named appropriately for its function, but I would prefer not to have an folder that contains all of my photos. It would be nice to have the ability to turn it off or hide it.
     

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