If Bernie Wins California, Should Hillary Step Down?

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  1. aaronvan Suspended

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    Hillary can't beat Trump. That's becoming evident to all impartial observers. The only chance the Democrats have in the fall is to dump Hillary and run Bernie. The only chance.

     
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    Hillary will never step down. She paid too much for the super delegates to walk away without the nomination.
     
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    everybody should accept California's decisions as correct :p
     
  5. Eraserhead macrumors G4

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    He won't win a majority of elected delegates.
     
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    So? The DNC hasn't embraced democracy yet. Why start now?

    When the DNC establishment realizes that Hillary can't beat Trump, she'll be kicked to the curb.
     
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    Except Hilary clearly can beat Trump.

    She does much better with minorities than Sanders for starters.
     
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    Trump can beat Hillary
     
  9. Eraserhead macrumors G4

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    How? White men aren't a majority.
     
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    "Can" and "will" are two different things.
     
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    Debates . Trump beat all the GOP clowns, the GOP leadership, faux news. Ryan , Romney. The GOP threw the kitchen sink and trump beat them all.
     
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    I don't really see Trumps path to victory. He's going to pickup republican and moderate heterosexual white men plus republican heterosexual white women. Hilary will claim everyone else.
     
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    Such a divisive point of view. People of all nationalities need work, and Trump will take America out of the malaise of Bush and Obama, the way that Reagan got America out of the malaise of Carter.
     
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    Whistling past the graveyard.

    Why would an unemployed union welder (say) vote for Hillary?
     
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    Dear god McCain had Sarah Palin who thinks she can see Russia from her house and the appalling Bush legacy and he still got 45% of the vote.

    Besides Hilary is actually a decent politician and will handle the debates better than the republican primary opponents none of whom was massively impressive.
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    Not divisive. Factual.

    Minorities don't vote Republican. Maybe if you stop dog whistling they will.
     
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    lol, she's afraid to debate Bernie before the California primary. She's high-pitched, shrill, and easily rattled. Trump will slaughter her in a debate.
     
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    She handled the republicans questioning her over Benghazi well.

    Besides what's the point in her debating Sanders? It's a waste of her time. He needs to win 2:1 to win overall.
     
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    That says it all right there.
     
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    Afraid? No. Waste of time? Yes. What point is there in debating a guy who has no mathematical chance of winning? She has already won. No need to be looking backwards at this point. It's time to move on.

    And seriously what could be said that hasn't already been said between these two by now? Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

    The notion that Trump will slaughter her at a debate is laughable. As is the notion that she is easily rattled. I am sure you wish that were the case, but it's not even close to reality.
     
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    What does it say?

    Personally I'd rather see Sanders as president and I don't like Hilary but she's won fair and square.
     
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    He'll pick up some of Bernie's people and he'll pick up the anyone but Hillary people which is about half the Democratic party
     
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    So, Berni has less votes than Hillary. He has difficulty getting minorities to vote for him. So how can you make this case. It's like you are trying to bend reality to suit your will.
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    No even close to actual reality. People sure do like to construct their own realities here though.
     
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    Trump will destroy Hillary in the debates.
     
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    Less votes in the corrupt and un-democratic Democratic primary means nothing. You seem worried that minorities will vote for Trump over Bernie. That sort of goes against the narrative, wouldn't you say?
     
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    He won't. No liberal will touch him.

    What he will do is pick up independent white men. But that isn't enough.
     

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