MP 7,1 If you are going to buy the 2019 MP from new, what is your income range? (votes are not public)

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What is your income range if you are going to buy the 2019 MP? (votes not public)

  1. $0-$50k

    6 vote(s)
    5.0%
  2. $50-100k

    24 vote(s)
    20.2%
  3. $100k-$150k

    21 vote(s)
    17.6%
  4. $150k-$200k

    4 vote(s)
    3.4%
  5. $200-$250k

    5 vote(s)
    4.2%
  6. $300k-$400k

    3 vote(s)
    2.5%
  7. $400k-$600k

    3 vote(s)
    2.5%
  8. $600k+

    9 vote(s)
    7.6%
  9. I won't be buying it personally, but work will buy it for me.

    3 vote(s)
    2.5%
  10. Not going to buy, but I like voting.

    39 vote(s)
    32.8%
  11. Other

    2 vote(s)
    1.7%
  1. AdamSeen macrumors member

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    #1
    I'm interested to see what sort of income range justifies spending at least $6k, but more likely at least $8k for a decent spec Mac Pro. The votes are not public. Please discuss and would be helpful to know your industry.
     
  2. vladid macrumors member

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    The way I see it, if you're in media creation and require the horse power, this thing will rock your world. I still run my 2010 MP and next year it'll be 10 years old.

    Think of the upfront cost as an investment in a really powerful computing device that will carry your creative business for the next decade. It's a no-brainer.
     
  3. strayts macrumors member

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    I would imagine that most of them will be purchased by businesses for commercial use. Or written off at least.
     
  4. PowerMike G5 macrumors 6502

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    I'm in media creation. But even though I think this Mac Pro is a bit overpriced, I will probably still get one before end of year.

    Simply because it's become a long term depreciable asset purchase. I'll usually make the money back on a machine like this fairly quickly. And its use amortized over 6-8 years makes it worth it. But that doesn't mean I'm not aware of the premium Apple is charging here or like buying it per se. If it wasn't a complete tax deductible, I'd think a bit harder on it too.
     
  5. XNorth macrumors regular

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    It will be a business buy, so my personal income is irrelevant.
     
  6. bsbeamer macrumors 68020

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    This poll is ridiculous. On top of that, there is a huge misconception about writing off equipment for business use from the population that does not do this regularly or semi-regularly. Yes, you get to claim as a business expense, but this purchase still costs you real money that (eventually) needs to be paid for. There are various methods depending on who is doing your accounting, but it's not even a one-time expense for one year - technically it needs to be scheduled across multiple years because that is the intended use and purpose.

    Leasing equipment is often "better" short-term strictly for business economic purposes, but rarely do these style machines/workstations fit into that niche properly. Especially if swapping or purchasing additional components.
     
  7. psingh01 macrumors 65816

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    It is expensive, but taking inflation into account, it is in line with the price of their high end power mac from 20 years ago.
     
  8. PowerMike G5 macrumors 6502

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    Yeah this is a good point. Remember, this is business deductible, not a tax credit. It'll reduce taxable income and will make a lot of sense, especially if one operates as a self-employed entity. It's one of the few deductibles that will actually lower the self-employment tax!

    That being said, it become a bit irrelevant if the cost doesn't pass to you personally and is claimed at the corporation level. Then it comes down to company structure, etc.
     
  9. Woodcrest64 macrumors 65816

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    lol. I love the power behind the new Mac Pro but I know I don't need it nor would I ever use it to its full potential. Tool-Man-572x298.png
     
  10. saulinpa macrumors 6502a

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    #10
    It is sad but some think that the MP is a toy/status symbol and plenty will be bought for just that. Sort of like an extreme version of the iPhone XXXXX.
     
  11. smirking, Jun 4, 2019
    Last edited: Jun 5, 2019

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    #11
    I think that's what the tone of this thread suggests... that the Mac Pro is being targeted as a luxury item.

    For real work, I wouldn't expect income level to track as tightly to Mac Pro purchases as people may think. If something is a neccessity to you, you'll shell out everything you have and figure out another way to make rent.

    If I absolutely needed this machine for my work, I'd buy it without any hesitation even if I had to raid every change jar and savings account. I don't, so even if the full spec machine was pocket change to me, I'd buy something more reasonable and keep my money.
     
  12. Tokaji_909, Jun 5, 2019
    Last edited: Jun 5, 2019

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    #12
    I'm thinking about buying it,but sure wait till all the pricing especially for Upgrades is online and also there are more Details in what you can user upgrade and what maybe third party parts you can use.
    I do not need its full potential at all, but I might need a bit more than the basic specs.
    Personally I think they could have put a bit more in the Box for 6k, like maybe a bigger SSD for example...
    But if it really is that upgradable, then it could last for quite a while.
    In my Business (lighting and content Design,CAD,Visuals) I could pay it with just 100 hours of work... and that would mean something like 3 month... Maybe spend some extra Money after a year or two for upgrades etc. and it really pays for itself!

    So I can`t really understand all the lame discussions about the price. It is a pro machine and it comes at costs but if you earn money with it and ideally it saves you money then it is okay.
    Sure maybe there might be cheaper stuff or not...who cares? It is a tool for me and if I need it then I buy it. As long as it is something that helps me pay my rent and other stuff.

    If you do not need it...Buy something else, that you need...
     
  13. AdamSeen thread starter macrumors member

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    The income range is very interesting as what it shows on average is that people will happily put a month or twos salary into the new Mac Pro. From looking around the forums, it seems the people happy to do that are people who use it for visual work (CAD, Videography, etc...). Where your primary concern is latency for input. i.e. things being slow would be extremely frustrating. Or what I would call immediate workflows.

    I do a lot of software and would benefit from the Mac Pro. I can eat up all the RAM and CPU that's given. But a process taking time doesn't stop me being productive, because it can run in the background. That means I can be doing other things. Carrying on programming, writing tests, etc... So whilst I can use the extra resources, I don't always have immediate workflows. There are some types of programming work that require immediate workflows, such as virtualisation or emulation.

    Therefore spending a months salary on a computer isn't such a binary choice for my workflows as it is for others. Especially when I can easily outsource my requirements to gcp or aws.
     
  14. a2jack, Jun 8, 2019
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    #14
    A non business purchase decision on this magic box, is IMO, less about money and more about our own tech levels and ambition.

    6-8k is not a biggie in the special interest hobby world. Look what the best cameras, boats, cars ,art, etc cost.

    Wife and I see ourselves as Apple hobby folks, and may see this machine as a base to build our knowledge. The fun part of any hobby.

    All our past hobbies later became financially self sustaining. The MP7 may do that too. But the jury is still way out on this one. a2
     
  15. BigMcGuire Contributor

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    #15
    I wish my income level let me buy this thing. My main computer was a 2015 MBA 11' for 3 years. So .... I know I don't need it, but that doesn't mean I don't want it. ... <cough>.

    @a2jack - Nice post. I like the way you think. :)
    --- Post Merged, Jun 8, 2019 ---
    Very ... very appropriate. :)
     
  16. QCassidy352 macrumors G4

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    #16
    I actually wouldn't want it, even if cost were no object at all. I'd feel wasteful, like buying a race car to drive to the grocery store.
     
  17. BigMcGuire Contributor

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    Hey, now come on. How dare you... Damnit. You’re right. :(. Lol.
     
  18. DoofenshmirtzEI macrumors 6502a

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    I have put my credit card on a strict training regimen. The spousal unit winced but agreed when I pointed out how many years my 2010 5,1 has served honorably. Disappointed in no dual CPU option, but at least this time, they are not shoving GPU's I don't need down my throat like with the 6,1.

    I'm on vacation so I don't know what the buzz at work is, but I strongly suspect they will be looking at the rack-mounted version for potential compile/test servers. I'm feeling a little giddy at the possibilities.

    They really should have introduced the monitor separately from the new Pro. Too many damned morons in the world that now think you can't buy the Pro without the monitor or some stupid crap.
     
  19. crjackson2134 macrumors 601

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    #19
    You should try that sometime... It's a lot of fun ;)
    jk
     
  20. CLS727 macrumors regular

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    Unless you edit 8k video all day for work..... it’s 100% an ego buy.

    But like a Ferrari isn’t for transportation... or like a Rolex isn’t for keeping time... there are plenty that are happy to drop $10k-$20k on their computer just to have the “best” setup and have plenty of cash for it to be insignificant.

    If you think those kind of people are idiots.... then you don’t want to know what they think about poor people like you.

    Moral - what other people do with their money is none of your business.
     
  21. ct2k7 macrumors 603

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    This isn’t remotely the only use case for the machine.
     
  22. CLS727 macrumors regular

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    I was being facetious.

    I know a California realtor that wants to buy one - MAX specs...... and he literally only will use it for checking email and a few basic excel/PowerPoint docs....... so that’s his “use case”........ but he made $3.4 million last year, and surrounding himself with the best of everything is what he’s in to.
     
  23. pl1984 macrumors 68020

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    Not entirely. If you want an internally expandable, headless Mac which can run 100% full tilt for days on end then this is the only option. If you want an internally expandable, headless Mac then this is the only option.
     
  24. Thysanoptera macrumors 6502a

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    To keep up with the photo editing the realtors do he may need fully maxed one. Sometimes when I look at Zillow I've got a feeling that the color enhancement goes way beyond what Adobe intended, and judging by the induced nausea from looking at those pictures the light frequency probably spans all the way from gamma to microwaves. You may need a supercomputer to edit the photos like that.
     
  25. kittiyut macrumors regular

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    And I thought that my 20-30k budget, including for the new monitor and stand, just to use it as a gaming machine was silly. Now I feel much better about it :)
     

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