If you could change one event from the last 100 years...

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  1. BreakGuy macrumors 6502a

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    Holocaust. And not just because of what happened then but because of the guilt that led to the creation of Israel which led to.....
     
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    Hitler was still-born.

    End of discussion.
     
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    There are two ways to see this.

    The first is to be egoistic and not to change anything because I wouldn't be alive right now if I made any significant change (even smaller ones can cause me to not exist, if they directly influenced the life of my parents or their relatives).

    The second one is to stop the world wars. Hitler not being born as iJohnHenry is a good idea, but one has to make sure that there would be no one taking his place (I mean, he can't possibly be the only source of nazism).
     
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    No, he may not have been, but we don't know this for sure, do we.

    My second choice would be Stalin.

    Third would be Pol Pot.

    And the list goes on. ;)
     
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    From a philosophical point, this could be discussed for hours and probably was...
    There was an article about Hitler being saved from drowning at young age. So it might have been closer than some think.

    Anyway, everyone believes the world would have been better without him, which is likely, but maybe it could have been worse without him, like a more powerful and cruel person taking his place. It's hypothetical and unlikely, but the possibility has to be taken into account.
     
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    I probably wouldn't have clipped my thumbnail as short as I did yesterday. It hurts.
     
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    I would change the response to the early warning of the approaching attack on Pearl Harbor from, "Ehhh, it's a glitch," to "HOLY EFF-balls! We're being attacked! Counter-attack!" Reason: We would have been much stronger and presumably quicker to thwart Japan, and therefore stronger on the European front as well. Both wars might have ended sooner, yet most other dynamics would remain unchanged. There would still be lessons learned and suffering, but less of the suffering.
     
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    While most people think of major historical events outside their influence... What's the point?
    Never been in the position to change it and no lesson to be learned for their own life (or could you start / stop a world war?).

    I certainly regret the way I treated some people, mainly girl friends, when I was younger (no physical violence or s*** like that). I certainly could have been a much nicer person in the past. Not sure what would have happened to my life though.

    I believe someone shouldn't linger too long on those things: Learn, improve and move on. I really try hard to be nice nowadays :D
     
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    Well, I considered that, but then all those little experiences in my life made me who I am today, and I'm happy with myself. If I didn't make some of those mistakes with girls, I might not be as cool as I am today! :)
     
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    I don't know if I could say this..

    I mean, think about it. His whole entire philosophy was that the Aryan race was the best race on the planet...

    Yet that whole entire view got thrown back at him like a pimp slap to the face when Jesse Owens, a common Black man, beat his entire perfect Aryan race.

    Without him getting trumped like that, there wouldn't have been the tiniest spark on the tinder of racial equality nor equal rights.

    So unfortunately, he would be a 'necessary' (lack of a better word) evil.; because of him existing, we wouldn't be the people we are, and better than his perfect Aryan race could ever become.

    BL.
     
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    I doubt Hitler not being born would make a big difference. After all his national-socialist movement got its money from international corporations and banks, who made a ton of money funding the military spending of both sides even during the 2nd world war.

    For example that's where the Bush family got its money from:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prescott_Bush
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2004/sep/25/usa.secondworldwar

    These are just 2 links I quickly googled, if someones interested you can find much more.

    Back in school we learned nothing about this, but I always wondered where Hitler got the money for his propaganda even back in the 20ies when his party was small.

    The point is there were enough lunatics in Hitlers movement, if he didn't exist someone else would have stood up.

    If I could change something it would probably be the creation of the private federal reserve bank back in 1913, since this tightened the grip the big banks & corporations have over politicians and people. Who knows what might have developed differently without it, but I'm pretty sure the fed did not too much positive since its creation.
     
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    The 9/11 Attacks for obvious reasons, but also because of all the effin bull.... that has come along as a result of it. They* have used 9/11 as an excuse to herald in this Big Brother police state we're living in and I'm sure that what we've seen so far is just the tip of the iceberg.


    *the power-hungry corporations, the Illuminati, the corrupt governments, the Vatican, Oprah ...you pick.
     
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    Agreed. And it started two wars and a whole load of Islamophobia.
     
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    28th June 1914 the Assassination Archduke Franz Ferdinand.

    No World War One. This event started all of the major problems in the world today.
     
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    It was just the tipping point. There were enough political tensions all over europe. Everyone wanted more colonies/resources. If you read a bit into the subject I think it's safe to say that World War 1 would have started even without this in a matter of months.
     
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    While I do second stopping Holocaust (but not necessarily WWII itself) it appears you have a problem with Israel's creation. Is that so?
     
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    I'd rather Gore being president instead of Bush.
     
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    Police state to monitor everyone because of terrorists vs. police state to monitor everyone because of global warming. Big difference ... :D
     
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    I tend to agree that if Hitler had not been born, someone else would have taken his place and history would look pretty similar.

    So, I would say I would change Britain's policy in the 1930s so instead of trying to appease Germany, they went to war with them sooner. If Britain had acted earlier, WW2 probably could have been a lot less bloody and costly.
     
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    Britain was in no position to go to war with Germany, even in 1940.
     
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    Well thought out. :D

    Yes, and without Jesse, Jackie Robinson might not have broken the whites-only baseball 'ban' with the Montreal Royals, the Brooklin Dodger's AAA team at the time.

    Now if we only had a "Q" at our disposal, we could explore this time-line, but trading dead Jews for Black equality is a Sophie's Choice.
     

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