ayeying

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So I saw this article and it was interesting.

http://money.cnn.com/2010/12/01/technology/4g_myth/index.htm?iid=EL

So apparently, the actual speed of the 3 carriers, Verizon, Sprint and T-Mobile have similar 4G speeds at ~10Mbps

I guess we're all complaining about the iPhone 4S not being 4G, we forget that, we should be complaining to the networks for not being able to provide real 4G speeds in the first place.

Just saying...
 

andyx3x

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So I saw this article and it was interesting.

http://money.cnn.com/2010/12/01/technology/4g_myth/index.htm?iid=EL

So apparently, the actual speed of the 3 carriers, Verizon, Sprint and T-Mobile have similar 4G speeds at ~10Mbps

I guess we're all complaining about the iPhone 4S not being 4G, we forget that, we should be complaining to the networks for not being able to provide real 4G speeds in the first place.

Just saying...

So, so wrong. Sprint and T-Mobile's 4G speeds are no where near Verizon's. Verizon's 4G is faster than my home Wi-Fi. The others are not even close.
 

Intell

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I've had my 4S surpass my sister's Galaxy Nexus in terms of ping time and raw download speeds. Tested in downtown Pittsburgh and in the rural surrounding areas. The article is stating the rather sad truth, America's cellular network is just not the greatest anymore.
 

chakraj

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it depends on area and congestion. My new Nexus is doing 25Mb down while out and about and 10Mb down in the brick building i live in. The best my i4S ever saw was 6.5Mb down and that was with the wind to its back going down hill :)

But you are correct "Real 4G" is like over 100Mb down. We are still at 3.5G

LTE advanced will be real 4G.
 
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lordofthereef

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What I don;t understand is why so many people make such a big deal about "real 4G". It's faster, it's pretty easy to find out what theoretical and actual speeds will be in your area on said "4G", so why sit here worrying about semantics. It's not like you are being duped into buying a car and being sold a tractor instead. It's a simple marketing term and you will still reach whatever peak speeds that are being advertised, in perfect conditions.
 

Leonard1818

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Man, it'd almost be worthwhile for me to convert my verizon unlimited line that I have now to a 4G LTE phone, root it, and tether... then "add a line" for my iPhone that I carry with... then give time warner the big middle finger since they can only bring me about 8MBPS
 

lordofthereef

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Man, it'd almost be worthwhile for me to convert my verizon unlimited line that I have now to a 4G LTE phone, root it, and tether... then "add a line" for my iPhone that I carry with... then give time warner the big middle finger since they can only bring me about 8MBPS

Verizon throttles your unlimited data if you are in the top 5% of users I believe.
 

chakraj

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Verizon is only throttling 3G plans. They are not throttling 4G. There was one story about a guy who did 65 gigs on 13 days being throttled, but no confirmation. Another person in the story did 110gigs in ten days and was not throttled. I think they both need to use wifi, it's people like that that ruin it for everyone.
 

BlizzardBolt

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Verizon has true 4G, other carriers are only improving on their 3G and marketing such as 3G. Although 4G on verizon is nowhere near "ordinary" 4G speeds, that number is quite outlandish Verizon's 4G LTE is and should be consider the only 4G network.
 

wordoflife

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Verizon does have superior 4G speeds compared to AT&T and Sprint. Verizon also seems to realize the limitations of CDMA so they're rolling out LTE pretty fast.

However, I'm not complaining with 7-10Mbps speeds on 3G on AT&T. AT&T has good speeds. The only problem is that its more or less 3G and not LTE ... so can't say they have an LTE network even though their speeds can be as fast as Verizon's LTE at some places.

I've seen LTE hit 30Mbps though.
 

Buckeyestar

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Verizon has true 4G, other carriers are only improving on their 3G and marketing such as 3G. Although 4G on verizon is nowhere near "ordinary" 4G speeds, that number is quite outlandish Verizon's 4G LTE is and should be consider the only 4G network.

Get your facts straight. AT&T has "true" 4G as well. What you call "true" is just LTE, and Verizon isn't the only US carrier using it.
 

himynameiscody

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lordofthereef said:
Man, it'd almost be worthwhile for me to convert my verizon unlimited line that I have now to a 4G LTE phone, root it, and tether... then "add a line" for my iPhone that I carry with... then give time warner the big middle finger since they can only bring me about 8MBPS

Verizon throttles your unlimited data if you are in the top 5% of users I believe.

What range would be top 5%
 

nizmoz

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Verizon is only throttling 3G plans. They are not throttling 4G. There was one story about a guy who did 65 gigs on 13 days being throttled, but no confirmation. Another person in the story did 110gigs in ten days and was not throttled. I think they both need to use wifi, it's people like that that ruin it for everyone.

Actually they are. I posted articles on this recently.

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Verizon does have superior 4G speeds compared to AT&T and Sprint. Verizon also seems to realize the limitations of CDMA so they're rolling out LTE pretty fast.

However, I'm not complaining with 7-10Mbps speeds on 3G on AT&T. AT&T has good speeds. The only problem is that its more or less 3G and not LTE ... so can't say they have an LTE network even though their speeds can be as fast as Verizon's LTE at some places.

I've seen LTE hit 30Mbps though.

50mb down with AT&T. Per tests AT&T is faster
 

bowlerman625

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pilot1226

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What range would be top 5%

I believe there was talk that AT&T customers were getting messages from the network that anything OVER 2GB put them into the top 5% tier of users. This is probably comparable to Verizon, give or take.
 
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