IG: Some emails on Clinton's server were beyond top secret

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  1. XrayTed macrumors regular

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    What about it lefties ?
    Is she horrifically incompetent, or just a world class liar who thinks her personal convenience is more important than national security ?



    Some of the classified emails found on former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton's home server were more sensitive than top secret, according to an inspector general for the intelligence community.

    Inspector General Charles I. McCullough sent a letter to lawmakers last Friday saying that several dozen additional classified emails have been found, including ones containing information from so-called "special access programs," which have a classification higher than top secret.

    http://news.yahoo.com/ig-emails-clintons-server-were-beyond-top-secret-194418905--politics.html
     
  2. citizenzen macrumors 65816

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    I suspect she is a typical top-level politician who thinks they are above following all the rules and regulations, that she probably believes just gets in the way of getting things done.

    Never been a fan. Hopefully this will be a big boost for my man, Bernie Sanders.
     
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    She's nowhere near perfect and I dont like her much, my candidate is Bernie Jesus Sanders.

    However, in the event that he loses the primary and my options are Hillary versus the neo-Fascist right wing extremists, there's no question I'll still vote for Hillary. Same goes for most of my right leaning friends. Seeing these Republicans disgusting faces on that debate stage is absolutely vomit inducing and a national disgrace. Cruz even moreso than Trump. At least Trump is kinda funny sometimes, Cruz is just the embodiment of Satan.
     
  4. LIVEFRMNYC macrumors 603

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    ZZZZzzzzZzzzZZZZ ........

    Guaranteed this is all about nothing again. Go enjoy the spin, then get disappointed by the logical explanation. ROUND 678.
     
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    All about nothing, move along.
     
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    I have to go through different types of polygraph on a continuing basis. Appointed people just have to get appointed and have access to SAP and pretty much anything below. I guess that is the difference between people at the bottom who have to meet strict requirements and sign their lives away for access and the people who get a magic wave of a hand for bureaucracies sake. The people at the bottom know all of the regulations that can ruin their lives, the people at the top just get a pencil whipping for access and a slap of the wrist.
     
  7. XrayTed thread starter macrumors regular

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    A bit on the charitable side IMO, I doubt if many high level officials make a habit out of moving 1,000's of classified/sensitive documents over private, unsecured systems [at least I hope not].

    This is mind boggling to me, her defense is apparently "Well, if there was any classified info, they weren't marked as such so I had no way of knowing - So move along, nothing to see here !". I really can't buy that someone as savvy as her would fall back on such a lame and demeaning defense, an indication that she has no other choices except to tell the truth - Which will never happen.

    Far as Sanders, little I have heard of his ideology since he has crawled out of the woodwork almost makes Hillary look mainstream, I'd personally vote for Donald Duck first. But I do hope he gets the nomination since he obviously doesn't have a snowballs chance in hell.
    That is my opinion, and I respect yours.

    I had an SCI clearance for most of my military career - Granted, almost exclusively on matters of tactical military intel, very sensitive nonetheless. We had it drummed in our heads over and over exactly how to handle this info, and of course it was all on a need to know basis. Some guys in my own unit were not privy to what I knew and vice verse, and I am under a signed waiver not to disseminate in any fashion any info I was privy to basically for life.
    Hard for me to comprehend that a high public official went so far out of bounds of basic security and SOP when it comes to dealing with classified info - And if what has come out so far is true, she truly is either highly incompetent or a very lax liar ,,, Either way she should probably be in jail about now, I know damn sure I would be.
    This transcends politics to me - Expect her to play the gender and "vast right wing conspiracy" cards ad nauseum to try to get out of this.

    On the + side for her she did get a major endorsement from the fine LGBT folks, whom for national security is obviously not high on their priorities list.
     
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    So do you think that Hillary was strapped to the chair and bombarded with questions? I think she only had to get appointed to her position and was entitled to all of the information her department had access to. This is the difference between the little guy and the appointeds.
     
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    Thanks for the shoutout. I'm not a Clinton guy myself, but at least she won't devote her presidency to making me a second class citizen once again like Ayatollah Cruz would love to. Besides, she wouldn't be SOLELY responsible for national security. Everyone has their priorities, and the right wing agenda doesn't fit in with mine. Maybe if the GOP spent less time antagonizing every voting block in the country except angry middle aged white people, actually bothered to come up with some policies to help the country that don't relate to more corporate tax cuts and repealing the ACA with no better solution, and then stopped denying science and promoting anti-intellectualism, they MIGHT have a chance in hell to win the election.

    If a political no vice watches the Democratic debate and the GOP debate back to back, it's like watching a civilized intelligent debate amongst adults with detailed policy plans and then following it up with watching a human circus with a bunch of buffoons who almost seem like a satire of their own selves. Y'all are screwed....
     
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    General David Petraeus was punished for far less. Chelsea Manning was punished for far less.

    Bring on the indictments!
     
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    For an entire cruise I alone was responsible for the keys to the sea chest.
     
  12. MacAndMic macrumors 6502

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    The lengths people will go to defend the impropriety of this snake is disgusting.
     
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    Well that was quite a mouthful of nothing. Punctuation is your friend and you forgot the "SIEG HEIL!" at the end.

    One thing GOP supporters have in common, after racism of course, is authoritarianism. You people just need a strong heavy fisted daddy to tell you what to do and tell you everything will be ok...princess.
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    Are you people so ashamed of your own party that instead of touting your candidates and saying why you support them you spend more time in your smear campaign against Hillary Clinton? Are you that terrified of her? If you are, totally understandable. Your party is in shambles after all. I'd probably be terrified too. Anyone who doesn't have an "R" next to their name will win this election. "Republican" is rapidly becoming the dirtiest word of 2016.
     
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    Well she has too much baggage to collect my vote. I live in NY so in the general election if it's not Sanders, then I'll take advantage of my state's blueness and vote for the Greens.
     
  15. MacAndMic macrumors 6502

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    The left and their arguments. Never anything of content, just a deflect on the other party.

    They will never look at the action and understand the severity of what she did. Anyone worth their salt in IT can hack that personal server and divulge information crucial to the security of our people.

    I especially like how Hillary's story on her email keeps changing as the investigation matures, now that's a leader. Those improv skills might come of use, in prison!
     
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    Which still makes me wonder why, if this is so truly heinous, no one has gone forward with criminal charges yet. So far, all of this has amounted to nothing more than "OLOL LOOK WHAT SHE DID".
     
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    Further, have some self pride, at least back Bernie. Yeah, you'll be labeled a socialist but at least you know your vote isn't making him rich.
     
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    These days, scratching your left nut on a Tuesday is enough to get you labeled a socialist.
     
  19. MacAndMic macrumors 6502

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    The case is still building. The FBI will be charging her, just watch.
     
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    Aren't they supposed to keep findings in a criminal investigation private? I know things work a little differently when it comes to people in government, but it's still weird how they're spewing everything they find at the media the moment they come across them.
     
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    Isn't that, like, exactly what I just said you were doing when I said your party has no serious policy plan and their only hope is smearing Hillary? Except of course building that wall and having Mexico pay for it. Maybe then we can start watering crops with Braundo. It's got electrolytes, it's what plants crave. :D(Idiocracy joke, in case you haven't seen it)

    I've already said I don't like Hillary much myself. But I like her much more than anything on your side of the aisle. I think I summed most of my reasons up earlier in the thread. You're free to disagree of course, but there's no way in hell this new radicalized version of the GOP will ever have my vote.
     
  22. MacAndMic macrumors 6502

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    They're not playing checkers, they're playing chess. She will be charged with corrupting an investigation, something they do not take lightly.
     
  23. Eraserhead macrumors G4

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    Can someone explain the different security levels please? What does "beyond top secret mean"?

    For the record I think Clinton did actually behave badly on this one and shouldn't be president.
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    Anyone worth their salt could (and did) hack the state department too.
     
  24. MacAndMic macrumors 6502

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    All candidates, regardless of party run smear campaigns, that is just politics.

    You have not been listening much. I've heard from EVERY candidate, regardless of party that they all want education reform, health care reform and a solution to the middle east. Trump further wants to create private sector jobs and cut down our deficit. While they all have their differences in their approach, I believe that is more than just building walls.

    I do not post here to sway someone's vote, that is impossible so please don't think that is what I am doing. I do however find it odd how a person could see her in any other light than a liar that also uses her political positions to get paid and sway special interest favors.
     
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    While would she be charged with corrupting an investigation?
     

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