Illegal immigrant self deports to avoid justice system

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  1. dukebound85 macrumors P6

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    http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/25598274/detail.html

    While he was given the option apparently I think this is absurd. If one lives here illegally and commits a crime, they should be held accountable for that crime and then ones immigration status should be considered.

    What do you think?
     
  2. .Andy macrumors 68030

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    If i'm reading right it's 2 years probation for unnecessarily shooting a man in the head, yet it's up to 12 years for attempting to stealing material belongings. In my mind your justice system has it's priorities completely messed up.
     
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    Edit: Someone can't read (me, sorry .Andy)

    That being said, this is ridiculous. We have citizen felons that try to cross the border all the time to escape and we chase them down, in this case we escort him across.
     
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    Which is exactly what .Andy said. That is seriously screwed up.
     
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    Wallace unnecessarily shot at two men and hit one in the head (Cardona). And only got two years probation. The real danger to the community and the one whom people should be outraged at the leniency and injustice is not the petty crime of stealing a trailer.
     
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    I misread the article and your post. I apologize.

    Thanks, skunk. Running a fever has hurt my reading comprehension.

    What's really scary is a kid gets shot for egging a car and now a guy gets shot for stealing a trailer. Both are crimes but neither warrants death or attempted death.
     
  7. citizenzen macrumors 65816

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    That would make sense to me too.

    Why wasn't that the case here? :confused:
     
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    Most likely cheaper and less of a hassle to deport.
     
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    It leads me to suspect that the DA had a hand in this decision.
     
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    Someone who steals deserves to go to jail. Someone who protects their property from criminals deserve a medal. I bet they never try to steal a trailer again.
     
  11. citizenzen macrumors 65816

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    Trailer = human life?

    Sorry. I don't share your values.
     
  12. .Andy macrumors 68030

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    Thankfully not many do.
     
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    Completely agree. These people think they can come here and act with impunity. Unfortunately, the justice system seems to enforce this notion in this case.

    Personally, I'd go after the sisters house if I were that bondsman.
     
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    Of course you do. :rolleyes:

    Just like you thought it was acceptable for someone throwing eggs to get shot and killed.
     
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    There you go forgetting the context of that situation again. :rolleyes:
     
  16. Zombie Acorn macrumors 65816

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    Its not just a trailer. As soon as it is okay for a thief to enter your place of residence with no expectation of repercussion we lose our freedom. Thieves should feel free to not enter someones property and steal their belongings.
     
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    Absolute and utter hyperbolic nonsense. Nobody is claiming thieves should feel free to enter someones property. Nor do countries where it is illegal to shoot someone in the head for stealing a trailer lack freedom.
     
  18. citizenzen macrumors 65816

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    Thieves generally don't just knock on your door and say, "Howdy neighbor. I'm here to steal your belongings."

    They also tend to run when alarms go off or police arrive.

    And I haven't seen too many instances where merchandise was sold on the street with "On Sale. Just stolen." signs on them.

    So your worries that that thieves "feel free" to do this without repercussion seems rather... ummm... unfounded.
     
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    Ive got mixed feelings on it. On the one hand I really dont think its wise to let people steal your stuff without a fight (this enables other thieves as it shows them how easy it is to steal), but on the other hand shooting at someone that is fleeing is just asking for trouble. If one is going to do that at least hit him and than arrange the body so it does not look like he was fleeing. ;)
     
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    As before, the context is irrelevant. You seem to think that killing someone who is not threatening you is using reasonable force.
     
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    Seems to me that the outcome would actually be better if he were a citizen. Either we're deporting a criminal who will likely come back with no recourse, or we're having our taxpayers pay to house someone who isn't even a citizen.
     
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    Funny, I don't recall saying that. Care to point that bit out to me?

    If you and renewed would like to discuss this further, there's a thread for that. ;)
     
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    Sure, you posted "Completely agree" in reply to a poster who said that people should get a medal for protecting their property, which in this case involved shooting someone in the head. I construe that as unqualified support for the use of disproportionate force. Please do correct me if I misconstrued your answer.
     
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    Given that you quoted my reply to reneweds comment on the egg and Mercedes thread, you seem to not understand that my reply was in the context of that thread.

    Perhaps a more careful reading is warranted next time?

    Posted from my iPhone.
     
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    I have seen both sides of the coin, thieves run rampant and unchecked up here and are rarely reported. Its almost as if people just accept the fact that people will attempt and succeed at stealing from them. A society of willing victims, a thieves paradise.
     

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