In a dark room, i can see the backlight through the black part and the earpiece

Discussion in 'iPhone Tips, Help and Troubleshooting' started by Anthony8720, Jul 5, 2007.

  1. Anthony8720 macrumors regular

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    I noticed that in a dark room, I can see the backlight throught he black front between the earpiece and the screen. I also noticed that i can see a little of it through the left side of the earpiece. Am I the only one?
     
  2. The General macrumors 601

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    I see it through the headphone jack like you said, but I don't see it through the black part.
     
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    Holy crap, I'd take it back immediately. Oh my God, I can see the backlight in my headphone jack, this thing is a piece of crap!:mad:
    :rolleyes:
     
  5. Anthony8720 thread starter macrumors regular

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    I wasn't referring to my headphone jack in my original post. Please read it more carefully. I was talking about the actual earpiece.
     
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  7. Anthony8720 thread starter macrumors regular

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    So i guess its back to the apple store for me then. Am i really the only one that sees this?
     
  8. The General macrumors 601

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    Oh, I've never heard "speaker" referred to as "earpiece" ... I figured you meant "headphone jack" because that is what you plug the "earpieces" or "earbuds" into.

    Then no, I don't see the light you're talking about. But who even cares? Oh god, no! Not light!

    Don't take it back, that will just be one fewer iPhones for people who still want one.
     
  9. Anthony8720 thread starter macrumors regular

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    Well, it looks like i'll be heading over to the atnt store to test out the other phones. If anyone wants to help me out to save me a trip please do this test. Go into a dark area and manually turn the brightness up on the screen. If you can see a little light through the speaker and the black space between it and the screen, I guess I don't have a real issue. Thanks in advance.
     
  10. The General macrumors 601

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    Why are you being so picky? You are talking about taking a perfectly functional iPhone back for a replacement because [in a dark room when you manually turn the brightness all the way up, you can kinda see some light elsewhere].

    You've got to be kidding me.
     
  11. Anthony8720 thread starter macrumors regular

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    Actually, my concern is that if light is shining through the earpiece, the speaker could be out of alignment, and could contribute to the low speaker volume. So no, I am not kidding you.
     
  12. cgray24 macrumors member

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    I see it too. You can sleep easier tonight
     
  13. kkachurak macrumors regular

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    I actually just tried this and saw no light coming from that region.

    You make a good point about a possible speaker mis-alignment.
     
  14. Anthony8720 thread starter macrumors regular

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    A summary of my iPhone (hardware) issues.

    I have backlight bleed all along the top of the screen. In a well lit room it isn't much of a problem. But it's pretty annoying while watching dark videos or looking at dark pictures.

    When the backlight is turned up, I can see it through the black plastic part between the earpiece and the screen. I can even see it through the left side of the earpiece way in the corner. (Many have also posted that they see this too, so i don't know if it is a problem with mine or if it is a common issue).

    And just yesterday I noticed that if you look carefully while the phones backlight is at it lowest setting, you can see a mild screen flicker. I know you will really never us the phone at a setting this low, but it is still annoying.

    I'm not sure if these issues are specific to my phone or not, since i have yet to experience another iphone in the wild. Other than those hardware problems, i absolutely love the software. Just curious if an exchange would help me out at all.
     
  15. Avatar74 macrumors 65816

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    Couple questions...

    Do you have the light set to manual or auto-adjust?

    If you have it set to manual, do you have the brightness turned up more than 3/4 of the way?
     
  16. Krevnik macrumors 68040

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    The backlight bleed is a defect on yours. The flicker is probably also related to it.
     
  17. Anthony8720 thread starter macrumors regular

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    Yes, sometimes.

    Is this backlight bleed really a defect? I have seen others comment on it. It isn't really noticeable on the home screen, but it is very noticable while looking at a black picture or dark movie.
     
  18. zap2 macrumors 604

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    One side of the black back, kind of clicks in, if I press on it hard enough... only sometimes though

    Thats my only hardware "problem"
     
  19. Avatar74 macrumors 65816

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    Ok, try to determine when you notice it more.. with manual or auto settings, and with brightness up high or not.

    The thing is... you're always going to get a certain amount of screen bleed with any flat display that uses a backlight. You might never notice it on phones that use a color or white background, but iPhone seems to rely on more black backdrops (come to think of it, I wonder if this design element also conserves power...) and therefore you're going to tend to notice backlight bleed much more.

    HOWEVER, with the automatic settings it should adjust it appropriately for the environment and this is key... because, contrary to what one might think, when you see washed-out contrast, where black colors look a bit greyish... the solution is to actually increase the ambient light to match the average luminance of the display. This keeps your eyes from fighting to see both what's on the screen and what's in your dark surroundings.

    Since you can't adjust ambient light everywhere, the reverse solution is to constantly adjust the brightness of the display, or to let the light sensor do it for you.

    Granted, even then it's never going to look as sharp or as high contrast as a good quality CRT... but keeping these things in mind, and adjusting accordingly, should help.

    That being said, if the display looks UNUSUALLY washed out, relative to other iPhones... there might be a service issue. However, I'd try the other route first... to see if auto-adjust makes a difference.

    Try to take note of whether you notice more backlight bleed in a dark room or light room, with higher brightness or lower brightness. My guess is that you'll notice it much more when you have the brightness up more than 2/3 of the way and are in a dark room... If that turns out to be the case, it is the wrong approach. Turn a light on in the room and switch on the autoadjust so the screen will match the room brightness.
     
  20. Anthony8720 thread starter macrumors regular

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    Thank you for all the info. I went to the genius bar and it was immediately noticed as a defect. Apparently, im not the only one. They swapped it out. The new one had zero screen bleed...but a horrible cluster of dead pixels right in the center of the screen. In between two buttons was a group of bright red pixels set against a black background. I usually turn a blind eye to pixel problems, i understand the nature of the manufacturing process, but anyone with eyes would notice these and it completely took away from the experience. It was returned no questions asked. I got my money back and plan to wait a while until they get their manufacturing in order. I just don't have the time to roll the dice again. Thanks for everyones input!
     

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