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rhett7660

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aaronvan

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I'm pretty sure high schools kids are mature enough to know they were running-up the score. Some were probably uncomfortable with it, too, but you gotta do what coach says.
 

ucfgrad93

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Starters should have been out by the 2nd quarter and the coach should have told his players no 3 pointers. But I don't think he should be suspended.
 

tobefirst ⚽️

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Starters should have been out by the 2nd quarter and the coach should have told his players no 3 pointers. But I don't think he should be suspended.
No 3 pointers, all players must touch the ball before a shot, no shots before X seconds left on the shot clock, no pressing defense, etc. There is no way you score 162 points in, I believe, 32 minutes without trying damn hard to.
 
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rhett7660

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Starters should have been out by the 2nd quarter and the coach should have told his players no 3 pointers. But I don't think he should be suspended.

Agreed, unless there is something they are not telling us, like he was purposely trying to run the score up and was telling his players to run the score up. Then there might be an issue here.

No 3 pointers, all players must touch the ball before a shot, no shots before X seconds left on the shot clock, no pressing defense, etc. There is no way you score 162 points in, I believe, 32 minutes without trying damn hard to.

Agreed... there is no way, if you do what you are saying the score gets that high. There were probably a boat load of turn overs and then a lot of quick shots etc....
 

Tomorrow

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I don't believe in all this "don't run up the score" crap.

I played basketball in high school. One season, we lost our opening game 77-23. Someone asked how we felt about the other team running up the score on us. We responded unanimously, "They didn't run up the score, they just handed our asses to us."

It would have been more insulting and condescending for the other team to have laid down on us than to just play their game.
 

sdilley14

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I don't believe in all this "don't run up the score" crap.

I played basketball in high school. One season, we lost our opening game 77-23. Someone asked how we felt about the other team running up the score on us. We responded unanimously, "They didn't run up the score, they just handed our asses to us."

It would have been more insulting and condescending for the other team to have laid down on us than to just play their game.

I agree with this 100%. Having been on both sides of the coin - pummeling teams and getting pummeled by teams, I wouldn't want any "mercy" in either direction. Play your hardest from whistle to whistle. Being in the zone and lighting a team up can feel exhilarating. And on the other hand, getting your a** handed to you once in a while is humbling and helps build character.
 
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tzhu07

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It's far more disrespectful to go easy on an opponent.

Better to play like you would against any other team. If it happens that you decimate the other team, then so be it. Let that be motivation for the other team to come back stronger next time and avoid embarrassment.
 

mobilehaathi

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On the other hand, in high school I saw a lacrosse game where one opponent was clearly running up the score out of disrespect and for the sake of humiliation. They were callous and rude. They laughed and made fun of the other team during play and behind the backs of the referees.
 
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DeltaMac

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I think that once you get 70 or 80 points behind, you could easily lose interest in offering any defense, and might just stand around and watch the other team go to their basket, where they score with almost no hindrance. The score would mount up pretty quickly. I remember watching a high school game like this some years ago - not really much of a game for either side, if you ask me!
 

sdilley14

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On the other hand, in high school I saw a lacrosse game where one opponent was clearly running up the score out of disrespect and for the sake of humiliation. They were callous and rude. They laughed and made fun of the other team during play and behind the backs of the referees.

Something like this is a different story and completely out of line.
 

63dot

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In this weird contact sport in the USA, there's this bizarre punishment where the best teams who reach the finals are barred from getting the best prospects for the next year. Weird, huh?
 

AustinIllini

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In this weird contact sport in the USA, there's this bizarre punishment where the best teams who reach the finals are barred from getting the best prospects for the next year. Weird, huh?
This is the only way to run a sport. The lack of parity in European club football is more than sufficient evidence to suggest the draft should favor the worse teams.
 
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63dot

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This is the only way to run a sport. The lack of parity in European club football is more than sufficient evidence to suggest the draft should favor the worse teams.
I think the four years the Niners did well making playoffs pretty much guaranteed we will be rebuilding after Kap is gone, or when he gets too old to be viable.

At least the Raiders' bad seasons gave them some time to get people and I think they will represent the Bay Area for football for the next few years.

We are on a high with the Giants and Warriors so just the sports spirit alone here makes teams play above their level.
 

AustinIllini

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I think the four years the Niners did well making playoffs pretty much guaranteed we will be rebuilding after Kap is gone, or when he gets too old to be viable.

At least the Raiders' bad seasons gave them some time to get people and I think they will represent the Bay Area for football for the next few years.

We are on a high with the Giants and Warriors so just the sports spirit alone here makes teams play above their level.
So I misspoke a little. It's not the only way to run a sport. The only thing I think is required is that the draft places are distributed evenly year after year. The NBA draft wheel proposal is another example.

That being said, there are some bad organizations which are just poorly run that don't benefit from multiple bad seasons.
 

A.Goldberg

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I don't agree with what the coach did here.

I played soccer up through college. I varsity soccer games with scores 10+ to 0-1 in High School. Usually once it was ~5-0 we'd ease off, as soccer is typically a pretty low scoring game. My coaches would usually institute 2 touch max (you're only allowed to touch the ball twice), anything more you'd be substituted out. Often the non-starters would play, players would play in unfamiliar positions, etc. Depending on the importance of the game, after ~5 my coach would tell us not to try to score. I have been instructed to intentionally miss if taking a shot.

I believe in sportsmanship. Pounding the opposing team into the ground is demoralizing and unnecessary.
 

rhett7660

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http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/jan/18/high-school-basketball-coach-suspended-afte/

I've read stories like the one above from time to time.

Seems like BS to me. None of this kiddie glove nonsense should ever occur in sports.

Also your title is a "little" disingenuous, this wasn't doing well. This was a flat out killing/running up the score on an opponent. Doing well would have been a close game, the better or luckier of the two wins the game. But this wasn't a punishment for doing well.

I still stand by my original post, but this wasn't a case of doing well as your title suggests.
 
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