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Discussion in 'Politics, Religion, Social Issues' started by obey908, Jan 5, 2009.

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    lol night vision
     
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    That made me laugh. I think I'll sign up and devote my time there instead of on here.
     
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    It might be more productive.:D
     
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    I guess it's funny as long as you're not being shot at.

    Drug smuggling across the River, SW of Sierra Blanca, Texas, commonly sees Mexican Army guys in HumVees with .50 BMGs on top as escorts of drug shipments. They will shoot; they have shot at law enforcement folks. The proprietor of a little truck stop in the area has commented that some of those guys regularly stop in for a Coca-Cola.

    The cross-country "walking" illegals will cut waterlines to get a drink. (Mostly in Arizona) That ends the flow to a cattle trough, and has caused death from thirst. Check what the price is on a cow.

    For all of the relatively low numbers, from a percentage standpoint, illegals are overly involved in burglary, rape and murder.

    But that's all something to laugh about, right?

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    Could you get an more xenophobic? Mexicans - drug runners, cattle killers, burglars, rapists, murderers. If creative demonising of mexicans is the only way you can justify voyeurs with too much time peering through webcams all day it's obviously completely futile.
     
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    Are you suggesting that we should make no effort to detect and stop illegal crossing of our borders?
     
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    .Andy, how in the world is pointing out fact somehow xenophobic? The crime-data comments come mostly from published numbers from California government. Is it xenophobic to note that the State of California claims that some 90% of its outstanding felony warrants are for illegals? Are newspapers xenophobic when they report crimes committed by illegals?

    Not that it particularly matters, but I go through Border Patrol checkpoints quite regularly, and a lot of the badges are Mexican guys. I usually start some minor BS session if there's no traffic stacking up behind me. Heck, half our community is of Mexican descent; many are dual citizenship, and have been screwed by all this border shutdown stuff. Was bar-talking with an Acosta just the other night; neighbor and friend of many years.

    But these folks are legal.

    I've lived here on the Border for 25 years, now. Until you learn something about the subject, you're just all hat and no cows.

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    You've obviously never been to Juarez or Tijuana.
     
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    "I guess it's funny if you're not being shot at" is not fact. It's xenophobic stereotyping to demonising a group of people. I could make the exact same charges you made to stereotype Americans in comparison to Australians. I'd stick up for Americans if our society decided to take extraordinary measures based on a fear that Americans are rapists, murderers, and drug runners because statistically you have higher rates of those crimes in America. Stereotyping the people that cross the border as packing high powered weapons, running drugs, being out to rape and kill and therefore requiring vigilante surveillance to keep America safe is rubbish. It's completely stoking the xenophobic fires. I don't doubt that some do cross borders whilst engaging in illegal and dangerous activity - but your post managed to go out of it's way to add the connotation to everyone crossing the border with your fearful anecdotes.

    I'll copy and paste this article from the Palestine/Israel thread as it's apt here. You're trying exactly the same device. Demonise a group of people to justify your opinions. The fact that you're referring to any other humans as "illegals" illustrates perfectly how desensitised you are.


    Your strawman arguments do get exceedingly tiresome. Suggesting that homemade vigilante webcams are completely futile and a waste of time does in no way suggest what you charge. You've resorted to similar nefarious methods in addressing my comments in two threads in a row now. I'd appreciate it if you stopped.
     
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    and what are simply webcams going to solve ? very little except for perhaps counting illegal crossings as long as they are operational simply for the fact of ultra long reaction times

    against actual criminal trafficers it's not gonna use much either because they will know right beforehand where the cameras are and can thus can either move outside of their view or jam them using electronics or good old wire cutting

    and your "the illegals crossing over are doign criminal things" is everywhere the same .. just like in Austria with the border from Burgenland to Hungary ... and just like there the fear of illegal crossers is bizarre

    i've seen quite a bit of illegal crossings and believe it or not the huge gigantic minority of that people have only the clothes they are wearing (if they have extra plastic bags they are the more lucky ones)
     
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    How are the Taco Bells there?
     
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    .Andy, nowhere did I say that ALL border jumpers are Bad Guys. I first-hand know better, just from living among some and working a few. But you don't need to be shot at but once to start wearing a Caution Cap. Me, I prefer vicarious learning from the problems of others. I suggest that you climb off your high horse and actually get some first-hand experience in some of these trouble spots along the border. Or, maybe, at least read a newspaper.

    MacTraveller, we commonly refer to them as the "Mexican Telephone Company". :D But the nearest is 240 miles away, in Odessa...
     
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    I've read one.

    http://www.tucsoncitizen.com/ss/byauthor/77871

    I know it's only Maricopa County specific, but it still proves your xenophobic theory (and many Arizonans) wrong.
     
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    So I guess that it's also safe to judge the entire USA by the conditions of the slums of Detroit or St. Louis?
     

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