A person with no record accumulates 4 guns, including an assault rifle and 6000 rounds of ammo legally, no record, heads into the local theater in Aurora, Colorado and starts shooting. Is this person sane and evil or insane? Do sane people do this? What does it take to exceed the boundaries of socially accepted behavior to be labeled insane? I understand people who kill to achieve something, such as accumulate riches, get rid of a pesky spouse, or to get back at those who picked on you (Columbine). But let's say you are hurting, hurting to such an extent that you are willing to give up on your life...and... make some other people, strangers suffer too. This is not rational is it? Is this sane or insane? And finally, how do you deal with mass murderers and serial killers? Is death all they deserve? Although for years I have been anti-death penalty based mostly on the statistics regarding innocent people sentenced to death, I'm starting to feel that for no-doubt guilt assured, heinous crimes, death might be an option. As I said in the other thread, at this point, do we care if an individual finally understands that the evil deed they perpetrated was wrong? Or screw'm, send back to God for a redo? What if they are no-s*** mentally ill? Should this be considered in how to deal with them? My inclination is to say yes, but it might be simpler to just hold them responsible for their actions.