Inside the bitter last days of Bernie's revolution

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    In my mind, Robert Goulet is singing "The Impossible Dream". Windmills ae spinning. Sancho Panza is laughing.
     
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    GOOD guys finish last, that is a fact.
     
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    BTW, this picture hangs right above my desk...

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    Do not go gentle into that good night

    Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
     
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    Said Rodney Dangerfield, with true feeling.
     
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    better feelings
     
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    Forgot about that one. Thanks.
     
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    This is the problem with insurgents, they don't know when the fracking war is over.

    Sanders needs to start making deals with the DNC, first to ensure that he can help choose the VP nominee, then to shift his remaining funds and organization to help the DNC win races for the Senate and the House.

    He should work to build a stronger coalition for progressives in the Senate and then he should take a vacation before helping Hillary beat Trump.

    If he does this, Hillary owes him and that gives him leverage. This burn it down politics is myopic and flawed.
     
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    been at war for how long in the M-E? you can't kill an idea my friend.
     
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    You can. It just requires very large bombs and a complete moral vacuum.
     
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    How many morals can you suck up before you have to empty the cannister?
     
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    so trump is the best option? say it ain't soi :D
     
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    Didn't work out so well in Vietnam.
     
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    The problem is HRC doesn't need him or his support and they both know that
     
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    Said Michael Caine.
     
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    Don't remember that one. Help?
     
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    Interstellar.
     
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    To a certain extent, it depends on what Mr Sanders really wants.

    If he wants to retain his position as someone who is seen as a protest politician - where the extent and volume of your indignation about institutional socio-economic injustices is what differentiates you from your more pragmatic (some would say compromised) political actors, then he will continue to fight until the convention.

    However, if he wants to translate that support into the sort of leverage that would influence policy formation and political platforms - and personnel, by having names to hand to add to the HRC campaign - now is the time to start dealing behind the scenes.

    But that means dealing and making deals, and in all political systems outside of dictatorships, deals tend to mean compromise, because you don;t have the mandate to get your own way on everything.

    So, it depends on whether Mr Sanders wishes to be seen as the expression of the Protest Vote (and it is a large protest vote), or whether he wishes to use this opportunity to influence Democrat policies, and change things from within the system.
     
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    Actually, she does. She may not need it to win the election but she sure as **** will need it to govern.
     
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    And given the **** storm that the republicans have been this cycle, it's the perfect time for the democrats to welcome sanders, embrace his better ideas and secure the next generation of young voters.

    As the republicans refuse to learn, the democrats could consign them to history and have a record number of consecutive presidencies. It's already looking very good for 16 years (Obama + Clinton). Correctly managed that could easily double.
     
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    Wasn't he the dude from Spaceballs?



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