I've been having a lot of problem installing things lately. I'm starting to think the Vise X installer or installer engine has issues. Apple's Installer seems to work okay, but I can't install the Tech Tool Pro 4.03 update, the ATI utilities 4.4 or the MS Office Updater update. All of them say they are powered by Vise X in one way or another. All of them hang in the searching phase of the install and bring the system to a crawl. I feel lucky to be able to force them to quit. Last night, the MS update crashed the Dock and I had to cycle the power. I have used Cocktail to run all of the system maintenance tasks and I found the Vise preference file and trashed that (and emptied the trash) and there was no difference (though, I didn't reboot before trying again.) Does anyone have any thoughts? This is really getting frustrating, but I'm not sure what else to do. Edit: Also, I'm running a Gigabit machine with Panther and all of the updates. I hear disk activity like it is indeed searching, but this continues for over 20 minutes with no productive activity. The SuperDrive upgrade I bought awhile back is slow to wake up (to eject after it goes idle, I have to eject once, let the disk reappear on the desktop and then eject a second time and it comes right out, this is via software, not the Apple keyboard as I'm using a Logitech one), but I don't think that's the root issue. Edit 2: The Ford Racing demo was made with a Vise installer and it installed fast and without incident. Also, reran the ATI 4.4 installer with the SuperDrive empty. Had to do a hard reboot. I wish I could ssh in from another local machine, but this one is all I have.