Instead of "raising the wage"...

Discussion in 'Politics, Religion, Social Issues' started by moonman239, Nov 19, 2015.

  1. moonman239 macrumors 68000

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    Each government needs to find a way to cut the cost of living. Our legislatures need to know how our tax dollars are being spent, and then come up with a good solution that we can be sure will be passed into law, whether with the executive's blessing or a veto-proof majority.
     
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    kill the income tax, stop penalizing those who work .
     
  3. mrkramer macrumors 603

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    And how do you propose replacing the revenue to the government after you kill the income tax? Or would you prefer to not replace it and allow all the infrastructure in the country to fall apart?
     
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    I am sorry, I should have added that we should end the war and make the GOVT live within it's means.
     
  5. citizenzen macrumors 65816

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    I'm not sure what you mean by "cut the cost of living." Economic growth means those costs are always rising. I'm a fan of slow and steady growth ... so I'm not sure how that can be achieved while at the same time cutting the cost of living.
     
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    So you're going for no government then as saying they have to live within their means while advocating for taking away almost all of the revenue coming in wouldn't support much of anything.
     
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    Seems like it would lead to deflation which is just as bad if not worse than high inflation. I think $15 may be a bit high for a national minimum wage, there are certainly areas where it is needed, but there are also parts of the midwest where you can live on less, so those areas may not need $15. Overall though the minimum wage should be raised.
     
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    Amazing, the gap between the rich and the poor is at an all time high and your solution to combat that trend is to shrink the size of the government. I guess to look at it in terms of a sports analogy, when a team is beating the crap out of another team, you would propose getting rid of the referees :) The system is clearly fixed to benefit those at the top, why not focus on corruption and price gouging?
     
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    please point out WHERE I said "no government"?
    while you are at it please explain HOW in the HELL is abolishing the INCOME tax taking away ALL their revenue? we have states w/o income tax http://www.bankrate.com/finance/taxes/states-with-no-income-tax-1.aspx
     
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    How well is the federal government spending our money? We are $18,000,000,000,000 in debt and our infrastructure is in bad shape.
     
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    with a limitless credit card they don't care how money is spent.
     
  12. jnpy!$4g3cwk macrumors 65816

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    The quickest way to cut the cost of living for people who earn less than the median income would be to kill sales taxes and increase income tax on the higher brackets.
     
  13. mrkramer macrumors 603

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    About 92% of the federal government's income comes from some form of income taxes.

    You can't have much of a functioning government on 8% of current revenues, so the only option there would be no government even if that wasn't what the people advocating for such a policy intended.
     
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    Cutting back majorly on the pentagon would be a good start, but you would see things get a lot worse if we got rid of taxes like @jkcerda suggested.
     
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    Do you think killing Social Security will help you in the long run?
     
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    You do realize that minimum wage is down about 40% from 45 years ago, right? That means that a huge number of people are making far less than they used to for likely even more work. So, it's not that people want to be paid more than before, they really just want to earn even close to what they used to for doing the same job.

    How do you propose "lowering the cost of living"? Who's taking the hit?
     
  19. steve knight macrumors 68020

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    correct me if I am wrong but have you not been wanting to get rid of ISIS?
     
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    leave the M-E, ISIS will die there.
     
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    Flat tax. Stop making the below average and average income earners pay a higher percent of their wages than the 1%.
     
  22. Happybunny macrumors 68000

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    That sounds like a COMMUNIST plot, to me.:cool:
     
  23. AlliFlowers Contributor

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    Not that drastic...merely socialist. ;)
     
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    I've always loved the idea of a future socialist utopia- do away with money, the root of all evil, replace it with government credits. Just cut up the national debtors note, problem solved. People won't be able to stash money, live like Kings in comparison to their fellow humans, but will be rewarded handsomely for their productive efforts that benefit the collective group.

    Everyone would be guaranteed a minimum subsistence level, with food, housing, and health care. However if they don't like a minimalist existence, they would be rewarded credits (including retirement credits) towards tangible goods, a private residence and privileges, based on their output, the weight they pull towards the economy, technical advancement, and cultural happiness- Manual labor, skilled labor, management, science, health care, the arts, research, exploration, the quality of life, etc. They would also be allowed ample time for individual development, to pursue their interests and ideally those interests would benefit us as a whole.

    Here is the tricky part- population must be controlled, regulated freedom to reproduce. Just as important, no corruption allowed. Corruption destroys every economic system it touches. We might need v2 humans to pull that off. ;)
     
  25. Mousse macrumors 68000

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    Meh... The rich will just make every deduction in the book and pay 0 taxes. Eliminate itemized deduction and have a single standard deduction of $25K single/separate filing and $50K married/joint filing, plus $15K for each dependent. You only pay taxes on the surplus that isn't needed for standard living expenses.

    Of course the deduction for businesses would be higher, plus extra deductions for each employee on the payroll.
     

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