Intel Lays Off 12,000 After Seeking Visas to Import 14,523

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    Technology giant Intel announced April 19 it will fire 12,000 skilled U.S.-based professionals — after already swelling its workforce with 14,523 requests in Washington D.C. since 2010 for visas to import foreign professionals through the controversial H-1B and Green Card programs.

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-govern...king-import-11600-foreign-workers-since-2010/



    From last year:


    Intel Lays Off American Workers While Lobbying for More H1B Visas
    Intel, one of the nations largest technology corporations, has delivered a stern message to their workers: You’re not good enough.
     
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    immigrants are just doing the jobs qualified Americans will not do for less :D
    have no fear, those displaced can make $15 an hour flipping burgers :D
    this is happening under Obama?
     
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    Sorry, Not buying it, especially from Breitbart. From OPB:

    http://www.opb.org/news/article/intel-cut-jobs-how-many-12000/

    This matches exactly what KQED reports:

    http://ww2.kqed.org/news/2016/04/19/intel-announces-it-will-cut-global-workforce-by-12000

    That all matches what The Oregonian has to say:

    http://www.oregonlive.com/silicon-forest/index.ssf/2016/04/intel_planning_for_thousands_o_1.html

    Unless Breitbart knows something Intel does not, they have no idea where these layoffs will begin at nor who will be affected, as this is only 11% of their employee base worldwide. No-one will know who is impacted until those notices start to be handed out. So please don't spread the FUD.

    BL.
     
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    THEY do know how to "spin" a story :p
     
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    Don't let facts get in the way of a good story.
     
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    It would be interesting to find out just how many of those jobs lost were STEM and how many of those were replace with H1B Visas.

    Even if the ratio is low, there's still the issue as to why Americans can't be trained for those H1B Visa jobs. Some kind of correction needs to take place, education system, employment laws, whatever, we need American jobs.
     
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    Well, this is obviously the downside of immigration.

    While immigration is good in some ways, because it leads to better products and services at lower costs, it also means more supply of skilled laborers, which is bad if you're a US skilled laborer.
     
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    ... and if you're NOT a US skilled laborer, you're job is replaced with a robot. Good time to be super rich and not have to work.

    They might as well just pick the companies up and move them outside the US, at least then there might be a chance the US government might pay attention.
     
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    This isn't a training issue, it's a corporation wanting to pay less for subpar but "good enough" skills so they can continue collecting bonuses through tech hardware slumps. There are tons of qualified Americans getting dumped to the curb for cheaper immigrant workers throughout the industry.

    I work directly with teams in India and China, their quality of work isn't as good as what comes out of the US/Canada. You send the tedious work that no one else wants there and then aren't surprised when your project comes back off spec and not finished.
     
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    It was happening under Bush as well. And previous presidents. Why do so many people around here act is they were born in 2009 or later??

    And it won't be $15 until 2022 or whenever, which makes the minimum wage "controversy" a straw argument. Especially as fast food joints have been automating and cheapening products (to the point nobody wants to eat there, never mind if they can afford to or not thanks to their jobs vanishing) long before the minimum wage issue became popular.

    And why the hell would any American grin over what's happening to their fellow countrymen??!! That's what terrorists were doing on 9/11.
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    Yet lots of Americans had been and wanting to do the work before the offshoring occurred.

    Especially as slavery was abolished, and the market influenced the wages to go down, has anybody talked about the perception as to why Americans don't want to do the work or are we just relying on one-dimensional stereotypes without hearing any other sides to the story?
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    Last decade, the Republicans weren't paying attention:

    http://www.ontheissues.org/SenateVote/Party_2005-63.htm

    Allowing more handouts to corporations to offshore jobs, aren't the GOP against welfare and stuff? Apparently not. Clinton clearly voted YES on halting those giveaways - which is a big reason why she has the support of many. I'm sorry so many around here don't keep up with the voting record of their elected officials.
     

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