Internet Cafes Declared Illegal in Ohio

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  1. IGregory macrumors 6502a

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    Interesting approach that Ohio Republicans took to regulate Internet Cafes in the state. Just declare it illegal and no regulation necessary.
     
  2. glocke12 macrumors 6502a

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    I dont get it....

    whats to prevent these people from getting on the internet from home and gambling??
     
  3. jnpy!$4g3cwk macrumors 65816

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    I read the article, but, I still don't understand it. It doesn't sound like people selling coffee and providing internet access. It sounds like places selling access and participating in the proceeds of online gambling. But, I'm still confused about the business model. Somebody who understands it please explain.
     
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    nothing...I guess they simply wont get access anymore to the free "Sweepstakes Games" that some of these internet cafes use.

    It turns out that it isn't internet cafes that are banned (despite the thread title) but rather there are new restrictions on those "sweepstakes games"


     
  5. bradl macrumors 68040

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    Good question.

    And the bold for emphasis. If they did this somewhere else, wouldn't it mean that that establishment that they are at (if commercial) be a gambling establishment by proxy? If so, they might require a gambling license.

    So I can see that being possible, but that is a very far stretch.

    BL.
     
  6. citizenzen macrumors 65816

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    I had no idea "sweepstakes" are so big. The top hit of the search "cleveland sweepstakes" is a Yellow Pages site that lists the following business ...


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  7. localoid macrumors 68020

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    This article from August 2012 provides some info about the sweepstakes at the Internet cafés...

     
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    Do you have any other articles from which you'd like to completely cherry pick information to skew the appearance of the point?

    Political hate makes people do weird things.
     
  9. pdjudd macrumors 601

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    Honestly it sounds like these internet cafe's were operating more like casinos or other gambling establishments with internet time being used as a pseudo currency used to exploit a loophole somewhere in the gambling laws.

    They aren't trying to eliminate internet cafe's directly, just the ones that try to exploit gambling laws (that are harder to change perhaps) improperly and are setting up these cafe's as a front.
     
  10. LIVEFRMNYC macrumors 603

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    Great, another lazy law that's only going to put honest internet cafe's out of business, while the ones being targeted will find another way to do business as usual in a matter of days.
     
  11. citizenzen macrumors 65816

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    I get the impression that if you make a decent cappuccino, you still have a fighting chance.
     
  12. LIVEFRMNYC macrumors 603

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    Most internet cafe's don't serve cappuccino or any beverage for that matter.

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    Only the nicer ones serve refreshments. I haven't see many of those.

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  13. citizenzen macrumors 65816

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    That is unlike any internet café that I've ever seen.

    Then again, maybe I need to get out more often.
     
  14. localoid macrumors 68020

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    Actual photos of clientele of the Ohio Internet cafés look a bit older than those in the pics above... :eek:

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    I'm guessing those aren't the official PR shots.
     
  16. LIVEFRMNYC macrumors 603

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    What is it with old people and gambling? That's the last thing I plan to do when I hit that age.
     
  17. localoid macrumors 68020

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    Yes, the commercial shots are very different! :p
     

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    Other Republican States doing the Same

    I did a quick Google and found South Carolina and Florida have also passed such laws. These Republicans, seems like when they get their teeth into sometime they all fall in line. :eek:
     
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    You're right. Whenever they want to keep people from creating illegal gambling locations, they all band together!

    Those damn pesky Pubs.
     
  20. LIVEFRMNYC macrumors 603

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    We all know the REAL reason is cause republican politicians are out of the loop. Republicans will eventually endorse this once they figure out and impose the hefty fees, taxes, and etc.
     
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    Couple of questions for you...

    Your reason for believing this is a "Republican" issue is based on what exactly?

    Gambling is usually regulated in the U.S. These so-called "sweepstakes" are a form of gambling. Why do you feel they shouldn't be taxed, regulated, etc.


    Suggested reading:

    A white paper, Internet Sweepstakes Cafés: Unregulated Storefront Gambling in the Neighborhood

    From the American Gaming Association's Web page: Internet Sweepstakes Cafés
     
  22. VulchR macrumors 68020

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    Wait - they're not closing Starbuck's? Public libraries with internet access? :rolleyes:

    The problem is that these gambling dens will simply subvert the law. It is not as though people cannot cross state lines or indeed international boundaries should they choose to gamble...

    EDIT: @localoid - you cite a paper from the American Gaming Association? They have a rather large conflict of interest regarding this issue do they not?
     
  23. pdjudd macrumors 601

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    All that establishes is that it's a cat and mouse game. That means the laws need to change. They aren't targeting individuals - other organizations target them - what they do want to target are business catering to gambling since there are so many ways that unregulated places that cater to gambling can do so with abuse. The state doesn't ban gambling, it just heavily regulates it to make sure that crooked organizations (the same ones that want to bypass the laws) don't exploit people. They view gambling (with good reason) as a form of commerce that they want to control and they don't want businesses engaging in it without regulation.
     
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    Heh. No, but they're probably more accurate.

    I don't know a whole lot about these places...despite living just down the street from two of them here in Ohio.

    I do know that the people I see entering and leaving tend to be AARP-aged. And I did see one owner on local TV who said they serve free meals there, much as a casino keeps buying you drinks to keep you there.

    I don't know what they look like inside, but the outsides are kind of sleazy looking, with darkened windows to keep you from seeing what's going on inside...not unlike the adult boutique down the road. :D

    Another issue I know bothers localities is that these places tend to proliferate like dandelions in the spring. Many communities put moratoriums (moritoria? :p ) on opening more of these things. As I said, there are two just down the street from me. I believe there are four in my medium-large commuter town...and at the time the moratorium was instituted, there were plans by various parties to built twelve more!
     
  25. thekev macrumors 604

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    Looking at some of those people, maybe they should institute mortuaries while they're at it:p.
     

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