iOS 10.1, in terms of what's new, is a horrible update.

Discussion in 'iOS 10' started by 0000757, Sep 21, 2016.

  1. 0000757 macrumors 68040

    Dec 16, 2011
    It feels like Apple has taken a step backwards with iOS 10.1, offering an iOS6-esuqe update style (aka, adding nothing).

    So far, it's looking like the ONLY thing that 10.1 is adding the the portrait mode that we already knew about. Nothing else. That's very disappointing, especially for non-7 Plus owners (which when you factor in the amount of iOS 10 devices, is a very large amount).

    Apple has previous done some very great stuff with their .X updates. The entire lifespan of iOS 9 showed that they were dedicated to continuing to add new features and functionality with every .X update. This is seen best with 9.1 with 150+ new emoji, and 9.3, which added Password notes, Night Shift, and a load of education features.

    iOS 7.1 updated the UX design. 4.2-3 and 8.1 added nice small visual changes, and some small feature additions. 3.1 and 5.1 changed the system in noticeable ways (in terms of functionality), and heck 8.2 and 8.4 added an entire new SERVICE and new apps.

    The fact that 10.1 adds literally nothing to non 7+ owners makes it feel more like it should be iOS 10.0.2, and a build that's only for the 7+, not a whole version upgrade.

    TL;DR: Apple has historically used the .X upgrades to introduce multiple new features and system changes that can apply to all devices, not one feature that only one device benefits from.
  2. stulaw11 Suspended

    Jan 25, 2012
    What? The iphone 7 plus has been out for 5 days. They are quickly adding a feature promised at the 9/8 event. A new feature typically has gotten a .x update.

    Your gripe makes no sense. It will not be the only iOS10 beta by any stretch
  3. Small White Car macrumors G4

    Small White Car

    Aug 29, 2006
    Washington DC
    So, in the past, they've struggled to get all the features finished on time and had to delay some of them a few weeks.

    And now they've gotten their act together and are getting most features included on the launch of the new phones.

    And you view this as a bad change?
  4. 0000757 thread starter macrumors 68040

    Dec 16, 2011
    My gripe makes perfect sense. Why call it a .X update? It would make more sense for it to be a .x.x update. .X updates have historically been feature and bug fix packed, not something that adds one feature to one device.
    --- Post Merged, Sep 21, 2016 ---
    You're missing the point. It should be a .x.x update, and save the big version numbers for when they add the big universal features and system changes. Otherwise what do I get out of updating to 10.1?
  5. penajmz macrumors 68040


    Sep 11, 2008
    New York City
  6. 0000757 thread starter macrumors 68040

    Dec 16, 2011
    I'm gonna guess you didn't actually read the post.
  7. penajmz macrumors 68040


    Sep 11, 2008
    New York City
    The fact that this was introduced in a .1 update upsets you is beyond my comprehension.
  8. AlliFlowers Contributor


    Jan 1, 2011
    L.A. (Lower Alabama)
    How many features or bug fixes do you require for it to be a .X update? How few for it to only qualify as .X.X?
  9. 0000757 thread starter macrumors 68040

    Dec 16, 2011
    Because .1 (and .2 and .3 and so on) have always had documented big bug fixes and new features for (almost) everyone. Not a single feature for one device, and nothing else. Why call it a .X update? Why even make it for everyone but the 7+ it that's all it's adding/changing?

    Well more than 1 feature for 1 device.
  10. GalFieri macrumors regular


    Mar 4, 2016
    Sometimes they add more features in subsequent betas. Just sit tight. Version numbers don't mean much.
  11. C DM macrumors Sandy Bridge

    Oct 17, 2011
    Actually, historically there wasn't that much new to a lot of x.y updates. It kind of started picking up more recently, especially with iOS 9, but even then not every 9.x update really had that much obvious new stuff as I recall (meaning things beyond some tweaks here and there).

    Furthermore, in this case this is just beta 1, so it's likely there will be more to it all by the time it comes out, perhaps not more large new features, but more tweaks, improvements, bug fixes, etc. Then there's also the possibility of Apple shifting more and more to having more x.y updates for each major version (as we've seen with iOS 8 and 9), which means that some of them might have less changes in them than others given that over a period of the lifespan of an iOS version there will be quite a few of them to add up to a good amount of new and improved things in that iOS version overall.
  12. triptolemus macrumors 6502


    Apr 17, 2011
    I read posts like this and I just wonder what it is that folks expect the devices to do that they already don't do.

    Cup the balls?
  13. stulaw11 Suspended

    Jan 25, 2012
    Email Tim Cook and ask them to call it 10.0.2 to make you feel all warm and fuzzy inside have correct numbering.

    What a waste of forum space this gripe is. Who gives 2 flying what number it is. It could be 10.29 for all anyone cares.
  14. Yun0 macrumors 65816


    Jun 12, 2013
    Winnipeg, Canada
    this intentional nitpick is beyond real.. & comprehension. almost as bad as the "planned obsolescence" crap too many believe.
  15. 0000757 thread starter macrumors 68040

    Dec 16, 2011
    Amazed at how many people missed the point of the topic but just resulted in personally attacking me. Really speaks to how toxic people can be.

    By the way, OCD and Autism are not insults and have nothing to do with version numbers.
  16. skwood macrumors 6502a


    Jul 8, 2013
    Tonbridge, UK
    Out of interest what did 9.1 introduce? I forget...

    EDIT: Emojis, Apple News in UK and a live photos improvement.

    My guess is that we'll see more minor features/tweaks/bug fixes over the course of 10.1 beta before release.
  17. humanresources macrumors regular

    Jun 28, 2016
    The OP is absolutely stupid. A new HUGE feature is Portrait mode for the iPhone 7 Plus. It deserves its own .X
  18. aristobrat macrumors G5

    Oct 14, 2005
    That's what I was thinking too, esp after reading some of the first impressions from this afternoon.
  19. jsawy3r macrumors member

    Jun 3, 2014
    Important to not forget that .x updates coincide with new iPads.

    Every new iPad has been released alongside a new .x (as far as I can recall).

    Never know what the end game is.

    Sounds like some people on this thread need a Xany, haha.
  20. Ternary macrumors regular

    Jul 4, 2015
    If this keeps up, let's have a poll: how many .x releases do you think iOS 10 is going to have?
  21. mizxco macrumors 6502a


    Jun 17, 2014
    I believe this 10.1 update is just a supplement for the promised features missing in 10.0, not the traditional .X updates that brings updates.

    The true improvement update will come in a month or two, after they have received actual customer feedback from the masses.
  22. C DM macrumors Sandy Bridge

    Oct 17, 2011
    Ultimately it mostly comes down to there being a noticeable new feature--if there is something like that then it wouldn't really be part of a typical bug fix x.y.z type of update and would need at least a minor x.y type of update.
  23. LoveToMacRumors macrumors 68020


    Feb 15, 2015
    Agree, the update is clearly a 10.0.2 for most users, but because it has that single feature for the 7 Plus, Apple had to make it a 10.1
  24. stulaw11 Suspended

    Jan 25, 2012
    It still doesnt matter what number they assign it; irrelevant in the grand scheme. Idk why it matters if its 10.0.2, 10.1 or 10.89. The numbering means nothing.

    I think this thread killed brain cells its no nonsensical.
  25. Nermal Moderator


    Staff Member

    Dec 7, 2002
    New Zealand
    Yep. According to the concept of semantic versioning, version numbers are major.minor.patch, where you increment the patch level for bug fixes but the minor version for new functionality. This is new functionality so should have the minor (middle) version number incremented.

    That document is speaking more along the lines of APIs but I can see the same concepts being used for iOS as a whole.

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