iOS 11: all old photo will be converted into HEIF or only new one ?

Discussion in 'iOS 11' started by fa.ce, Jun 30, 2017.

  1. fa.ce macrumors 6502

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    I've installed official beta and see that all my old photo saved into my iPhone are uploaded again into iCloud.
    That meanings that iOS 11 is converting all my photo database into HEIF format ?
    Or the new format will be apply only to the new photo ?
     
  2. PeLaNo macrumors regular

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    I think they only make change with photos taken by iOS 11.
     
  3. fa.ce thread starter macrumors 6502

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    I'm asking because seems odd this syncing all my photo database after iOS 11 was installed.
    Thought that a conversion from JPEG into HEIF format is in progress ...
    I've also to say that my huge 32.000 and counting photos (that before iOS 11 was in sync) are syncing really slow.
     
  4. Mehaly macrumors newbie

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    I have exactly the same question.

    My entire iCloud Photo Library (about 20.000 photos) is uploading since I installed the iOS 11, almost 1 week and very slow.
     
  5. PeLaNo macrumors regular

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    Maybe It's a bug.
     
  6. Mehaly macrumors newbie

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    Maybe it’s a bug. But it’s progressing actually. I have about 5000 photos left to upload. Do you think they’re going to be converted to HEIF?
     
  7. PeLaNo macrumors regular

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    Is it only has progress when you charge and lock your device ?
     
  8. Mehaly macrumors newbie

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    Yes. I also can continue the progress, if I resume manually. It’s definitely eating the battery very fast and iPhone 7+ is getting quite warm.
    I always leave uploading during the night and try also during the day when I’m home.
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  9. PeLaNo macrumors regular

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    So I pretty sure its convert JPEG into HEIC , thx for your info.
     
  10. Mehaly macrumors newbie

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    I hope, you’re right. Because that would be awesome!
    The thing is, I saw the difference neither in the iCloud storage (it should be already significantly less, right?), nor in the photos meta data informations, (they’re still JPEG).
     
  11. PeLaNo macrumors regular

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    Or maybe it's just a bug that make uploads very slow,haha
     
  12. KeanosMagicHat macrumors 65816

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    32000 photos - Lordy! :eek:
     
  13. gwhizkids macrumors 68020

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    It may only happen as they are completely uploaded for your device and in the cloud only after iOS 11 is released. Agree good news, though.
     
  14. Shirasaki macrumors 604

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    I don’t see such full re-upload, albeit I only have 2500 photos and pictures in total.
    Maybe because my device does not support HEIF anyway and no device will support it anyway. (iPhone 6s plus)
     
  15. Mehaly macrumors newbie

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    It looks like it supports only the iPhone 7 and iPad Pro only right now.

    I have almost 1500 photos left to upload. so curios, what’s next?
     
  16. betabeta macrumors 6502a

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    I’m pretty sure they would give us a choice, I certainly don’t want all my photos converted as I still like .jpg format better for now.
     
  17. thatJohann macrumors 6502a

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    My iPhone 7+ on iOS 11 public beta did a respring then when it came back it had zero photos. Then redownloaded all of them (12,000) from iCloud I assume. So weird.
     
  18. dlemaymt macrumors newbie

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    Not only they will not change the file format for existing content, new pictures will only be encoded in HEIF on the iPhone 7 and later.

    Quote:
    So where and how can we create HEIF image and HEVC movie content? So, as you can see, we currently only have HEIF encode support and hardware on iOS with minimum configuration being the A10 Fusion chip, an example, of which, is the iPhone 7 and the iPhone 7 Plus.​

    https://developer.apple.com/videos/play/wwdc2017/503/

    See also slide 101 of the slide deck :
    https://devstreaming-cdn.apple.com/...i7o3222/503/503_introducing_heif_and_hevc.pdf
     
  19. SoN1NjA macrumors 65816

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    iOS 11 is not converting old photos to .HEIC

    Went to postimg.org and went to upload a photo I knew was pre iOS 11, and it uploads as .JPG
     
  20. uhaas macrumors 6502

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    I believe it's only new photos, but this isn't a valid test, as exporting converts them back to jpeg.
     
  21. Mascots macrumors 65816

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    Old photos are not going to be converted. Apple will probably move to converting people's iCloud libraries at some point, but they won't rely on the users device to do that.

    iCloud Photo sync loop is a confrmed bug.
     
  22. MattXDA macrumors 6502

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    No prior conversion, as stated in thread
     

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  23. T'hain Esh Kelch macrumors 601

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    No, that would be awful. Converting a compressed format into another compressed format is bound to result in the loss of information.
     
  24. SoN1NjA macrumors 65816

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    Not happening for me, so this is a valid test

    New photos upload as .HEIC, old ones .JPG
     
  25. Mehaly macrumors newbie

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    Thanks for the information! My iCloud library is still uploading, but only 400 photos left, so it’s not looping. I still hope, it’s going to be an adjustment of the storage.
     

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