iOS: Boring?

throys

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I just came across this video on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39w0ha1TD6c&list=UUR0AnNR7sViH3TWMJl5jyxw&index=4&feature=plcp

The techie talks about how iOS has just become boring and software wise Apple needs to do some major changes.
What do you guys think about his claims? What did you wish iOS had that it doesn't (and maybe Android has)?

I'm not agreeing or disagreeing with him.
Well personally there is some room for improvements and new ideas to the iOS, especially now with so much onlookers to see what's apple next new innovation will be or they will just slip and fall from their current top form and success. I hope they don't get complacent.
 

throAU

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An OS is not there to entertain you.

It is about the APPS. iOS has plenty of apps. The OS itself is a platform, if you rely on an operating system to provide you with daily entertainment you really need to get a life.
 

Vanilla Ice

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He's totally right. iOS has been running the same UI since the first iPhone. It does get boring. But I will still choose iOS over android do to performance and app response. I like fast and iOS is just that. BTW project butter is sweet, but IMO iOS is still smoother.
 

Fatboy71

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I've heard people say:

'iOS is boring, after 5 years the layout of 16 squares/apps plus the dock is still the same'.

The thing is, has customizable has Android is, every Android phone I've seen from my friends who own them, to ones I've seen people using on the street, essentially have the same layout of squares/apps that we see on iOS/iPhone.

I've said to my friends who own Android smartphones (some of which moved from iPhone/iOS)

'how come you have the apps laid out in the same way has you did when you had your iPhone with folders and them laid out in the same way, or to friends who haven't moved from iPhone/iOS, how come you have the apps laid out in the same way has the iPhone with apps, folders,

They answer,

'Because I find it the simplest and clearest way to access them'

So if people move to Android to allow more customization, then from what I've seen in the layout department, there seeing the same as the iPhone/iOS.
 

irDigital0l

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Yea I wouldn't mind if Apple updated the icons to make them look more modern, add widgets to notification center like weather and stocks, and some other stuff.

The thing is I spend 99% in apps, not looking at the home screen.
 

throys

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I've heard people say:

'iOS is boring, after 5 years the layout of 16 squares/apps plus the dock is still the same'.

The thing is, has customizable has Android is, every Android phone I've seen from my friends who own them, to ones I've seen people using on the street, essentially have the same layout of squares/apps that we see on iOS/iPhone.

I've said to my friends who own Android smartphones (some of which moved from iPhone/iOS)

'how come you have the apps laid out in the same way has you did when you had your iPhone with folders and them laid out in the same way, or to friends who haven't moved from iPhone/iOS, how come you have the apps laid out in the same way has the iPhone with apps, folders,

They answer,

'Because I find it the simplest and clearest way to access them'

So if people move to Android to allow more customization, then from what I've seen in the layout department, there seeing the same as the iPhone/iOS.
This is so true, I have about 6 pages of apps since I dont like putting apps in folders and each page apps are grouped to who I use it my daily life. such as entertainments, apple own apps page from iwork to garageband etc.
The only thing I think lacking to iOS is sometimes apple needs to give the user more choices. Sending pictures and music is tiresome if you try to send to other platforms, this is where apple could improve on the brickwall or garden fencing of the iOS.
 

NbinHD

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I just came across this video on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39w0ha1TD6c&list=UUR0AnNR7sViH3TWMJl5jyxw&index=4&feature=plcp

The techie talks about how iOS has just become boring and software wise Apple needs to do some major changes.
What do you guys think about his claims? What did you wish iOS had that it doesn't (and maybe Android has)?

I'm not agreeing or disagreeing with him.
For the most part I agree. There are some things i'd like to see in Android like the issue of fixing fragmentation and making a better quality app store, but other then that I think Android is nice. Its getting better every day that passes. Also, that is not just some techie, that's John Rettinger, he's cool, TechnoBuffalo is good, follow there YouTube channel for really good and honest product reviews.
 

bandofbrothers

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I'm kinda OCD with my icons. All in alphetical order on my home screens and in the couple of folders I have.

I prefer my main home screen just to have 4 apps I mainly use.

I want my iOS to be stable , issue free and simple and that's what I get with stock iOS. I'm not sure how you can get bored with it. Perhaps your mixing this up with how it looks aesthetically to which the realms of jb would probably relight your enthusiasm for your iPhone...... Maybe !
 

Defender2010

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For the most part I agree. There are some things i'd like to see in Android like the issue of fixing fragmentation and making a better quality app store, but other then that I think Android is nice. Its getting better every day that passes. Also, that is not just some techie, that's John Rettinger, he's cool, TechnoBuffalo is good, follow there YouTube channel for really good and honest product reviews.
John Rettinger is boring as hell. What does he know about anything really. Leech. This thread is also boring. iOS is not boring. It does what it says it does. I think you should seek your thrills elsewhere if you feel "bored".
 

SpyderBite

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Many of the people who purchase the iPhone for the first time have likely been using the same mobile device for years. Many of those people are trading up from a dumb/flip phone. Others are migrating over from the Blackberry platform now that most companies allow byo mobile devices vs. company issued phones.

These people I refer to make up the majority of the consumers purchasing an iPhone. They don't want their phone to change with every update. They just want it to work like their 10 year old Samsung push-to-talk flip phone from 2004 has worked for them over the years.

Put yourself in their shoes as a non-enthusiast. What if every time your car stereo had an upgrade they moved the volume & tuner buttons and replaced features you used daily with more advanced features you weren't interested in? This might make your driving experience a little frustrating. And this is how majority of the mobile device consumers will feel if the interface on their phone keeps changing when all they want to do is send a text or make a phone call.

Apple, and any consumer product manufacturer for that matter, caters the consumer majority.. Not the hobbyist/enthusiast. If we could have all the features we personally wanted in our electronics, automobiles, etc. There would be 6 million different models or versions of every consumer product and a new model/version would be released every day.
 

kokhean

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Well, here's a (very stupid) comment from someone:

iOS is boring. But, that's what all the old people (and idiots) need -- simple crap that never changes; otherwise, they'd have to learn something new.
-Jay Litten
Really? The other day, someone said that Android is simple to use and iOS is complicated. They're basically contradicting among themselves.

Is iOS boring? Yes. Does it do what I need? Yes. Do the apps make up for the entertainment that people want (not need)? Yes.

I guess Android's for people who like to change their home screens 25 times a day then?
 

diamond.g

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An OS is not there to entertain you.

It is about the APPS. iOS has plenty of apps. The OS itself is a platform, if you rely on an operating system to provide you with daily entertainment you really need to get a life.
I think that if that were the case, then why would Apple have to include things like a browser (and make it so that no other rendering engine can run), or a mail client (and make it so that no other mail client can be set as default). I don't think it is only about Apps. The UI matters, as does the default applications.
 

MozMan68

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Right here...
I think that if that were the case, then why would Apple have to include things like a browser (and make it so that no other rendering engine can run), or a mail client (and make it so that no other mail client can be set as default). I don't think it is only about Apps. The UI matters, as does the default applications.
Those limitations there are for the same reason...stability, speed, etc.
 

GenesisST

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"But it does me no injury for my neighbor to say there are twenty gods or no God. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg."
- Thomas Jefferson

This quote applies to phone preferences as well...
 

jeremiah256

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He's totally right. iOS has been running the same UI since the first iPhone. It does get boring. But I will still choose iOS over android do to performance and app response. I like fast and iOS is just that. BTW project butter is sweet, but IMO iOS is still smoother.
Project Butter and Google Now has me leaning toward the next Nexus. Plus, my workflow on my iPhone includes many Google services and apps. The skins, while not a critical part of my ultimate decision, may be the tie breaker.
 

3282868

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Yes and no.

I do agree that the icons are a bit tedious after a while, however I've been using an iPhone since day 1. I do like the new weather graphics, they seem more mature/sophisticated over iOS 5's weather images. I wouldn't mind seeing more intricate designs to match that look.

The one feature I am looking forward to the most and sincerely hope Apple implements in the next iPhone's hardware is NFC. I know many have mixed feelings about it, however with Passbook and NFC I strongly believe it would garner more interest from consumers.
 

southfrisco

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In certain parts of the world maybe...

The one feature I am looking forward to the most and sincerely hope Apple implements in the next iPhone's hardware is NFC. I know many have mixed feelings about it, however with Passbook and NFC I strongly believe it would garner more interest from consumers.
Can you please tell me all the places that you would eagerly use NFC payments in the United States? :confused: Or do you consistently travel to Asia and Europe?
 

M33-1

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My wife has a new Galaxy s3. I love the OS. Not only can you adjust everything, but the interface is fluid and fast.

My iPhone 4s is really boring. I'm trying to get out of my contract without losing my number.
 

djtech42

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They should remove some of the gloss at least, just like they did with OS X. More graphics that look like the new weather app, and less like the "bubbly" annoying icons. There should be redesigns of all the apps by the time iOS 7 is released. I am sure that there are improvements to be made everywhere (especially the multitasking bar). With multitasking, AT LEAST let us swipe up from the bottom to get the multitasking bar instead of double clicking the home button. That is my biggest annoyance of iOS right now.
 

Nimoy

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I doubt Apple would ever radically overhaul iOS in one update. There are far too many people who aren't tech savvy and who rely on their phones to perform basic functions; they had a hard enough time learning how to use their iPhone the first time and do not want to re-learn it again. Even though I would probably enjoy the novelty of using a fresh new interface, these people (who are far more numerous than me) would just find needless frustration in a new operating system.
 

FelixDerKater

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Can you please tell me all the places that you would eagerly use NFC payments in the United States? :confused: Or do you consistently travel to Asia and Europe?
Most every grocery store and retailer nearby has the ability to accept Google Wallet or Paypal. I'm sure Apple's implementation of the technology will be widely accepted just the same.
 

3282868

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Can you please tell me all the places that you would eagerly use NFC payments in the United States? :confused: Or do you consistently travel to Asia and Europe?
Apple To Include NFC Technology In Next iPhone, Partnering With MasterCard/PayPass?

MasterCard are obviously a worldwide brand, and one of the biggest players in the financial services sector. Their emerging payments director, Ed McLaughlin is quoted as saying:

The timeline is always as rapid as it makes sense for consumers,” he says. “That’s a combination of having a critical mass of the merchants, which is what you’re seeing right now, and getting devices into the hands of consumers. I don’t know of a handset manufacturer that isn’t in process of making sure their stuff is PayPass ready.”
MasterCard acknowledges it needs Apple to bring NFC payments into the mainstream

Apple iPhone 5 will be the NFC 'iWallet' rumor claims

...and yes, I do travel back to the E.U./U.K. and Japan (on occasion). :)
 

nuckinfutz

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When I see the awesome output of some of the imaging apps or music apps that talented people create. I realize that the minute I start talking about the OS being boring it's not really the phone that I'm talking about it's my utter lack of doing anything creative or productive that is worth mentioning.

Note that Rettinger didn't come up with anything exciting himself as an option. He simply said he wants more customization of the OS. That's fine but rather ironic coming from someone ranting about how boring a product is.