iPad mini appears in Media Markt inventory in cellular and WiFi flavors, $250-650

Discussion in 'iPad' started by Che Castro, Oct 14, 2012.

  1. Che Castro macrumors 603

    May 21, 2009
  2. Votekinky06 macrumors 6502

    Jun 10, 2011
    It's just shocking to me that the entry price for an iPad Mini would be $50 less than an iPod Touch...:confused:
  3. hobbbz macrumors 6502a


    Mar 8, 2005
    You don't have to pay for tiny components. You can get larger ones cheaper. It costs to make things as small as the iPod touch is.
  4. Che Castro thread starter macrumors 603

    May 21, 2009
    Well one is 8gb & the other is 32gb

    One is retina & the other is not

    One is more portable than the other?
  5. jaysen macrumors 6502

    Sep 16, 2009

    It's like comparing red apples to green apples - granny smith to washington :)
  6. 314631, Oct 14, 2012
    Last edited by a moderator: Oct 27, 2012

    314631 macrumors 6502a

    May 12, 2009
    iDeaded myself
    Do you think 8GB is enough? You'll probably have about 6.7GB of usable space for apps and content. Remember many apps now include bundled retina artwork and use a lot more space for everyone as a result.

    If they are pushing this for books and digital magazines, then you'll run out of space in no time, particularly with mags. Some of the digital magazine editions are 500MB to 1GB in size.
  7. bruinsrme macrumors 603


    Oct 26, 2008
    yeah it costs a lot more to fit 4000 die on a 300mm wafer than it does 2500 die. :rolleyes:
  8. Che Castro thread starter macrumors 603

    May 21, 2009
    In my 16gb iPhone 5

    I have about 4.6gb of free space & that's only because I have music on there most of it is music , no video

    I won't be putting any games or music/video on the mini
    Just regular apps & I stream everything else

    I'm using 6.4gb of music on my iPhone
  9. Buckeyestar macrumors 6502a


    Sep 17, 2011
    Are you equally as shocked that a 16GB LTE iPad is $30 cheaper than the 16GB iPhone 5?
  10. urkel macrumors 68030

    Nov 3, 2008
    The 8GB version is the one that makes me feel this entire story is inaccurate. 8GB for an iPad just seems way too small for what an iPad can actually do (and for the price)
  11. Acorn macrumors 68020


    Jan 2, 2009
    they should have done 16 and 32 and 64. with the 16gb the same cost of what they would price the 8gb. its a media consumption device and not being able to do most of what you could do on a model with more space destroys the entire point of having it.
  12. Menneisyys2 macrumors 603

    Jun 7, 2011
    You can always stream to it if you're at home - and when on the move, you can even play videos from an SD card, assuming you jailbreak.

    Back to the subject: if it has the A6, I'll get it too.
  13. sfwalter macrumors 68000


    Jan 6, 2004
    Dallas Texas
    I'm not buying those models. My guess is they are just place holders in an inventory system, however time will tell.
  14. rusty2192 macrumors 6502a

    Oct 15, 2008
    If this is real and translates directly to US$, i could see how it would work. This way you have the low entry price of $250 to grab headlines and compete with the Kindle Fire and Nexus 7. Yet Apple's bottom line is still protected because a lot of people will see the limitations of 8GB and step up to the 16 GB at $349, as opposed to the recently guessed $299 entry price.

    For my uses, I think I could get by just fine with 8GB. I wouldn't need to put any music or movies on it as I would stream everything and I don't really play many games on my iPad 1.

    This was my first thought as well. How many times have we seen these kind of things pop up in Best Buy's computer and they were total guesses.
  15. gorskiegangsta macrumors 65816


    Mar 13, 2011
    Brooklyn, NY
    Why should it be confusing?

    1. These are two different device categories.
    2. Miniaturized components actually cost more than their "full sized" counterparts. Just look at the cost of 2.5" HDDs vs. 3.5" HDDs.

    Not if all you're using it for is to surf the web, stream music/video, and a handful of apps/books. I bet there are people who don't even need that much.

    On the other hand, 16GB NAND chips are dirt cheap nowadays. I bet OEMs like Apple can get them for less than $5 apiece with massive orders, so I don't even get why Apple would strive to save that little unless they're planning it as an "upgrade" for future gens.
  16. urkel macrumors 68030

    Nov 3, 2008
    Youre right. I guess when it comes to a machine that is built around compromise then you need to hammer in a price point so if 8GB gives them a "starting at $250" tagline then a lot of people would flock to it.
  17. deaglecat macrumors 6502


    Mar 9, 2012
    Sorry but I just don't buy this. Apple has real problems containing supply chain leaks but they do not need to advise third party sellers of the retail price - esp since supply will be constrained to Apple in the first instance... then resellers.

    The 100 euro step up from 8 to 16Gb is not plausible Even the Nexus was a fraction of this step-up (and a lot of that was profit).

    So this whole story is BS.

    I hope it did not get folk too excited.

    The entry price will be $299.
  18. pgiguere1 macrumors 68020


    May 28, 2009
    Montreal, Canada
    I just looked up German Apple Store prices to get an idea of what that would convert to in U.S. pricing. Prices seem to be about the same, where 1 Euro = 1 USD, since the German prices include VAT and europeans generally get screwed with electronics pricing.

    It should be something like this in the US:

    iPad mini Wi-Fi 8GB: US$ 249
    iPad mini Wi-Fi 16GB: US$ 349
    iPad mini Wi-Fi 32GB: US$ 449
    iPad mini Wi-Fi 64GB: US$ 549

    iPad mini Wi-Fi + Cellular 8GB: US$ 349
    iPad mini Wi-Fi + Cellular 16GB: US$ 449
    iPad mini Wi-Fi + Cellular 32GB: US$ 549
    iPad mini Wi-Fi + Cellular 64GB: US$ 649

    If true, I'd be surprised since the margin would be next to none on the 8GB model and huge on bigger models. $249 for the base model seems too low to me and paying $100 for an extra 8GB of storage is weird as well.
  19. deaglecat macrumors 6502


    Mar 9, 2012

    iPod touch 32Gb US$ 299
    iPod touch 64Gb US$ 399

    Does this make sense ? So the smallest tablet is 8Gb and the smallest touch is 32Gb... I don't think so.
  20. pgiguere1 macrumors 68020


    May 28, 2009
    Montreal, Canada
    I would personally fill an iPod touch more quickly since I'd actually use it to listen to music and take pictures / videos.

    With those prices I'd choose the 8GB iPad mini and get a 64GB iPod touch (if I didn't have an iPhone already), as I'd use my iPod touch to hold my music collection and the iPad would mainly be a web surfing / reading device, but that's just me.
  21. shiinx macrumors newbie

    Oct 14, 2012
    Just to put these prices into perspective:
    The US$ price of the new iPhone 5 was not simply translated 1:1 to Euros as is common practice (1 Euro roughly equals 1.30 US$, but this is okay because European prices usually include sales tax and US prices don't), but 50 Euros were added to price of each model. Thus, I actually expect the US prices even cheaper than translating Euros 1:1 to US$s.

    And one question:
    Several people stated that they will use the iPad Mini to stream video and audio. Do you only want to do this where WiFi is available or are the costs for celullar this cheap in the US? In Germany for example, speed is reduced to GPRS after 200MB-3GB depending on your contract. This means you cannot even watch a whole movie.
  22. Stetrain macrumors 68040

    Feb 6, 2009
    The smallest touch is actually 16GB, since they still sell the 4th gen model. Before the last even the smallest model was 8GB.

    I agree though that 16GB seems a bit small for the iPad Mini. I think they would be more likely to start at 16GB for $299 than start at 8GB for $249.
  23. deaglecat macrumors 6502


    Mar 9, 2012
    Fair point on the old touch. But why would Apple even stock that (now very old) device if for $50 more you could have a new mini with a larger screen, more pixels and a heck of a lot faster.

    Nope ... this just does not make sense. Too many models, the steps between sizes do not make sense and it does not fit into the existing pricing structure.
  24. robanga macrumors 68000


    Aug 25, 2007
    I don't see the positioning issue between the Touch and this as being an issue of all. With the Touch you pay for miniaturization. That sort of thing exists for most tech products.
  25. Tortri macrumors 6502a


    Aug 30, 2010
    Well on apples uk store the iPad 2($399) is 329 EU.

    With that said 349 EU will be around the $400 price, same as the current iPad 2 and if rumor of an A6 in a developers logs is true then the selling point is ultra thin, IGZO, a6 processor and a long battery life to basically kill off the iPad 2, which I also think its possible the iPad 3 will get an a6 processor update to equal it out.

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