I know there's many Apple fans and I really like my Apple products but I'm a major camera phone fan. Hate normal cameras and I'm going to make some points on my Iphone 4S: *The Battery life is poor compared to the Iphone 4 so this is a problem especially when shooting video. *No Panorama mode and self timer in the Iphone camera. Third party apps are shockingly bad I mean the interface is always unnavigable and tacky. *This is a big one night shots very poor try taking it to a night club the results are not good unless you take a picture close up. There's no proper flash a flash light is hopeless in 2012. Next Iphone needs a xenon flash this is a MUST. *The colours are too harm even compared to the last Iphone. *Images are more blurry than the last Iphone. *Facetime cameras are a little behind Skype. I like my night shots so I'm tempted to buy an old C905. I mean compared to other camera phones like Samsung maybe the Iphone 4S is matchable but anybody who is use to Cybershot SE phones they were the best (if you don't count the video quality). C905 8MP is miles better than 4S get some comparison snaps and see. So rather than a 10MP next Iphone or 12MP keep the 8Mp (we don't need more gain and blur) and get a wide angle lens, proper camera functionality in IOS6 and a proper flash camera. Then maybe we can talk about the Iphone being a good camera..as a day camera is not bad but we need something better. Roll on Iphone 5.