This might seem early, but I was able to get a pre-order (that is what they called it) from Target. Basically they will contact me once I can pick up the Phone. I was told that they will have the 5s on launch day and since I was the first on the list I would be able to pick mine up next Friday. Figured it was worth a shot since my upgrade is still in place with Verizon incase this falls through I can always try my luck At Apple or one of the other Apple retailers. Apple iPhone 5S 16GB Space Grey estimated delivery Sept 20th.