iPod 'doomed', says expert


PlaceofDis

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there really isnt much of an argument. aren't podcasts participation? isn't adding your music playlists etc participation. what kind of participation should there be? he doesnt say. what crap.
 

dornoforpyros

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oh those zany experts! I wonder if I can join them one day at their experts conferences and come up with my own expert opinions

"So I feel that one day everyone will have a TV implanted into their wrist, it will have wifi and a light weight version of windows"


Now give me some money please.
 

moot

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dornoforpyros said:
oh those zany experts! I wonder if I can join them one day at their experts conferences and come up with my own expert opinions

"So I feel that one day everyone will have a TV implanted into their wrist, it will have wifi and a light weight version of windows"


Now give me some money please.

Are you making fun of the experts. I hope not because of course we should believe everything they say, as they are experts. I do. As long as the person is an expert I believe any bulls***t that comes out of their orrifices.
 

treblah

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gangst said:
I think it is mainly a big bold statement by the analyst to get added attention.
Dave Winer is not an analyst.

MacDAWG said:
Sounds a lot like "sour grapes" to me
Sounds about right. This is the same guy who complained that Apple didn't call him when they decided to utilize RSS in Safari RSS. Not to mention the podcasting riff with Adam Curry. :rolleyes:
 

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gangst said:
I think it is mainly a big bold statement by the analyst to get added attention.
Valid point ... the basic act of mentioning an extremely hot consumer item with high visibility results in readers paying attention. It packs an even greater punch when it deviates from the normal opinion of the product line or, better yet for the analyst, predicts an eventual crash and burn. There is a substantial difference between an expected slowdown versus doom.
 

merge

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The iPod is doomed! because I said so...
You don't actually want a reason, do you?
Isn't "because I said so" good enough for you people!
 

IJ Reilly

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treblah said:
Dave Winer is not an analyst.
Hey we're all analysts in our own minds.

Dave has a history with Apple. His gripe goes back to when AppleScript was first included in the MacOS, shortly after he'd developed his own scripting environment for the Mac (Frontier).
 

Lacero

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Yes it is true. From MS, Sony and Creative's perspective, the iPod is doomed to take over the MP3 player market forever. :D
 

Eidorian

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by Saven Marek (739395) on Sunday October 16, @01:02PM (#13803988)
Here's some iPod history of all the bad moves apple has made with the ipod that clearly show how successful it can't be. except it still is.

Original iPod 2001
"Too expensive ($400)"
"Can't use regular batteries"
"No PC support"
"No Games"
"Big flop.. Apple is through"

Second generation 10/20 gig iPods 2002 (PC support)
"Too expensive"
"Can't use regular batteries"
"The 10 gig will cannibalize 20 gig sales"
"Big flop.. Apple is through"

Third generation 10/15/30 gig iPods 2003 w/ITMS and docking
"Too expensive"
"No one wants to buy just one song"
"Not enough titles in ITMS"
"10 gig will cannibalize 15 gig sales"
"Big flop.. Apple is through"

iPod mini 4 gig (end of 2003)
"Too expensive" ($249)
"It's ugly"
"Will cannibalize iPod sales"
"Not enough storage"
"Big flop.. Apple is through"

Fourth generation 20/40 gig iPod 2004 (Clickwheel)
HP Branded iPod
iPod Photo (40/60 gig)
U2 black iPod (October)
"Too expensive" ($299/$399, $499/$599 for photo)
"HP will cannibalize Apple sales"
"No one wants little photos on an iPod"
"Black iPod is ugly"
"Big flop.. Apple is through"

iPod Shuffle 2005
Second generation iPod mini 4/6 gig
"One gig shuffle is too expensive" ($149)
"No screen"
"4 gig mini will cannibalize Shuffle sales"
"6 gig mini will cannibalize iPod sales"
"Shuffles will cannibalize mini sales"
"Big flop.. Apple is through"

iPod nano 2005 (September)
"Too expensive" ($199/$249)
"Should have kept the mini"
"Will cannibalize iPod sales"
"No one will buy the Shuffle now"
"Big flop.. Apple is through"

iPod with Video Playback 30/60 gig (October 2005)
"Too expensive" ($299/$399)
"No one wants little videos"
"Big flop.. Apple is through"
 

Stella

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The iPod has succeeded because the consumer has identified with it and generally likes it.

The music industry has had little impact on the success of the iPod.

Its all about the consumer, if the consumer didn't like the product, the iPod would not have been a success.
 

mkrishnan

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MontyZ said:
Yea, with 82% Market Share of the MP3 player market, I'm sure the iPod is on it's last legs. I predict it will be back down to 5% market share by Christmas, and by New Years, people will be saying, "iPod who??"
This way, with any luck, Apple will be able to close its doors officially before the end of the calendar year. It's a long time coming -- good riddance to bad rubbish! :D