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iPod iPod output to TV - no interface or Frontrow??

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GregA

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Hi.
I know the 5.5g iPod plays video to your TV... but when you're looking for the video you use the regular iPod interface.

I want to buy the dock with remote and use a Frontrow interface on the TV...

Anyone know if that's what it does with the iPod Classic (or new Nano?)
 
GregA said:
Hi.
I know the 5.5g iPod plays video to your TV... but when you're looking for the video you use the regular iPod interface.

I want to buy the dock with remote and use a Frontrow interface on the TV...

Anyone know if that's what it does with the iPod Classic (or new Nano?)
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I highly doubt its a Frontrow like interface but I would also be interested to know if the new ipods produce some sort of GUI on the TV screen to find your content. But at the present time I don't think anyone knows considering the new dock and new AV cables will not be released for 3 more weeks.
 
Shorties said:
I highly doubt its a Frontrow like interface but I would also be interested to know if the new ipods produce some sort of GUI on the TV screen to find your content. But at the present time I don't think anyone knows considering the new dock and new AV cables will not be released for 3 more weeks.
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I'm thinking none of the iPods will display the interface on the TV screen, certainly not Frontrow like... it'd compete against the :apple:TV

EDIT: Then again maybe not, as the :apple:TV is networked and can receive new content as and when it arrives, rather than the iPod, which requires syncing each time. iPod Touch could be different though, with it's Wifi. hmm.
 
Danksi said:
I'm thinking none of the iPods will display the interface on the TV screen, certainly not Frontrow like... it'd compete against the :apple:TV

EDIT: Then again maybe not, as the :apple:TV is networked and can receive new content as and when it arrives, rather than the iPod, which requires syncing each time. iPod Touch could be different though, with it's Wifi. hmm.
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I think the new Front Row interface for Leopard comptes aginst the :apple:TV more then a GUI interface on the iPod-to-tv screen ever would. Considering the new cable is $50 and has a special apple authentication chip in it (Meaning only Apple or any accessory maker that puts up the $$$ can make it) I am hoping it at least puts the iPod interface on the screen. (It was annoying having to get up and look at my iPod to change episodes on the 5G iPods).
 
Shorties said:
I think the new Front Row interface for Leopard comptes aginst the :apple:TV more then a GUI interface on the iPod-to-tv screen ever would.
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Only if you're watching the Mac or perhaps hooking the Mac to a TV.. not the market the :apple:TV is aimed at.

Shorties said:
Considering the new cable is $50 and has a special apple authentication chip in it (Meaning only Apple or any accessory maker that puts up the $$$ can make it) I am hoping it at least puts the iPod interface on the screen. (It was annoying having to get up and look at my iPod to change episodes on the 5G iPods).
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I see what you're saying, because Apple is forcing you to use their cable, they're effectively charging you for the 'frontrow' experience.
 
Apple locks TV Out in new iPods, breaks video add-ons

iLounge says it's a no-go with TV Out:

http://www.ilounge.com/index.php

"Without disclosing the change to customers, Apple has locked the TV Out feature of the iPod classic and video-capable iPod nano, preventing users from outputting iPod content to their TV sets as has been done in years past. Going to the Videos > Settings menu brings up a TV Out option that is now unresponsive when clicked, showing only the word “off.” When locked, video content will display on the iPod’s screen, but not on your TV or portable display accessory."
 
sblasl said:
iLounge says it's a no-go with TV Out:

http://www.ilounge.com/index.php

"Without disclosing the change to customers, Apple has locked the TV Out feature of the iPod classic and video-capable iPod nano, preventing users from outputting iPod content to their TV sets as has been done in years past. Going to the Videos > Settings menu brings up a TV Out option that is now unresponsive when clicked, showing only the word “off.” When locked, video content will display on the iPod’s screen, but not on your TV or portable display accessory."
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They didn't lock it out, they just moved it from the headphone jack to the dock connector, requiring everyone to purchase new cables.
 
aswitcher said:
And I think they did that to allow control over DRM video material.
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Possible, doesn't sound very Apple-like to me though. So far, everything seems to indicate that they require some kind of embedded chip in the cable, which means you have to buy an Apple or licensed 3rd party cable.

I guess it's possible there's some sort of Macrovision-esque copy protection in the offical cables, which is why they're forcing only approved cables.
 
PygmySurfer said:
Possible, doesn't sound very Apple-like to me though. So far, everything seems to indicate that they require some kind of embedded chip in the cable, which means you have to buy an Apple or licensed 3rd party cable.

I guess it's possible there's some sort of Macrovision-esque copy protection in the offical cables, which is why they're forcing only approved cables.
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With for rent movies on the cards, HD TV and movies, protecting DRM is likely important.

There is probably a bandwidth/quality issue that would make component out from the headphone jack impossible.
 
sblasl said:
iLounge says it's a no-go with TV Out
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Yes, you have to buy the Apple cable.

Technically - they probably don't have the video available through the headphone socket anymore. I tried it and THEN saw the articles saying it's not possible.

Anyway, it looks like they're locking down 3rd party products that took video via the iPod connector too.
 
help!!!!
hi, i have a question, i got a classic (coming tomorrow) and today i bought a universal dock (that didn't came with av cable), so, since i already own a product with the chip can i buy a ordinary av cable for ipod or do i need the "official" av cable aswell? (to plug on the dock)
thanks
 
takaogui said:
help!!!!
hi, i have a question, i got a classic (coming tomorrow) and today i bought a universal dock (that didn't came with av cable), so, since i already own a product with the chip can i buy a ordinary av cable for ipod or do i need the "official" av cable aswell? (to plug on the dock)
thanks
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From what I understand you need the new cable for it to work.
 
Shorties said:
From what I understand you need the new cable for it to work.
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thx :(
can't believe i paid 40 bucks on a apple dock that didn't even came with a cable, now theres goes another 50 bucks on a cable to make the dock useful :eek:
 
sblasl said:
iLounge says it's a no-go with TV Out:

http://www.ilounge.com/index.php

"Without disclosing the change to customers, Apple has locked the TV Out feature of the iPod classic and video-capable iPod nano, preventing users from outputting iPod content to their TV sets as has been done in years past. Going to the Videos > Settings menu brings up a TV Out option that is now unresponsive when clicked, showing only the word “off.” When locked, video content will display on the iPod’s screen, but not on your TV or portable display accessory."
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Put the Nano in the multimedia dock and this function works fine.
 
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