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Discussion in 'Politics, Religion, Social Issues' started by skunk, Jun 10, 2008.
Any chance of this going anywhere?
Honestly, why am I not surprised about this?
It's just one atrocity after another with this administration.
Not for at least another 7 months. But even then I'd give it slim odds. The GOP obstructionists in Congress will surely see to that.
A gagging order, why? I would give George the bird and report it anyway. Preventing the story from being investigated and reported, is damn close to obstruction and/or censorship. I guess he does not want to embarrass his corporate buddies. Too damn bad a$$hole.
I cannot believe the **** we are allowing these criminals get away with.
maybe........after all, a few scapegoats need to be punished at some point and the politicians would prefer it be somebody other then themselves
If it's a gag order, then you'd be giving the courts the finger and face criminal charges...
Also, why would any of the parties involved talk? If you're the one suing, then going and blabbing about it will hurt your case in court. If you're the one being sued, then you're complicit, and you're glad of the gag order.
Sometimes, you have to stand-up for what is right. The gag order was not the decision of any court. It is just Bush, trying to quash a story. But, $23,000,000,000 dollars of missing taxpayer money is NOT something we have to simply ignore, just because the criminal President says so.
Ah, well, that it's the administration that applied it makes things slightly different. But still, there isn't much incentive to break the gag order for the parties involved, is there? If we expect everyone to act altruistically, then we'll be very disappointed indeed. As for the missing taxpayer money--you're right, it shouldn't be ignored. That's why Congress is going to hold hearings. And that's why you should vote in November!!
Even if the possibility is slim, it must be considered. What if there is a reason its missing, that can't be told yet, due to investigations, that the offenders can be caught? There are always possibilities.
1. Go to war
2. Do dodgy deals with dodgy companies/people
The words "grasping", "at" and "straws" spring to mind.
Maybe that would be true of a couple of million, even 10 million but 23 billion?
Here's the deal. If someone steals your wallet, it's his fault. If he steals your house, it's a little bit yours. If he steals billions, it's probably mostly your fault.
There aren't too many ways to lose billions of dollars that don't come back down to gross mismanagement or outright duplicity in the end.
We already know that Halliburton's no-bid and cost-plus contracts caused raging, rampant inefficiency and fraud. It's probably a good bet that much of this money went in that direction.
Now, if this is "aid" to Iraqi officials to keep them with us, I understand that, although I doubt it'll be very effective. If it's done in the semi-legit way we usually do it, we should able to release those figures. If it's more sketchy, there are numerous problems, but if that is what's going on, it probably should be revealed at least to the Senate Foreign Relations Committee.
Do you even need step 3 in that model?
What a surprise
This administration and their corporate overlords will be brought to justice one day soon.
Everyone that voted and supported this man deserves everything that's going on right now. Period.
Problem is, the rest of us don't deserve it.