Iraqi gays in 'hell on earth'

Discussion in 'Politics, Religion, Social Issues' started by leekohler, Sep 12, 2012.

  1. leekohler macrumors G5

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    Thanks W. So much for Operation "Iraqi Freedom". What an abject, massive failure. Well, what many of us suspected would happen, has- we've got ourselves yet another theocracy in the Middle East.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-19525137
     
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    Wow, blaming the US right out of the gate. I thought we'd have to wait until at least page two.

    Was the LGBT situation in Iraq exacerbated by the conflict? Perhaps. Though I'd be very interested in seeing if there is any hard data for Iraq LGBT pre and post the conflict.

    What's your explanation for the other countries in the Middle East where the US is not involved?
     
  3. anonymouslurker macrumors regular

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    ...elected by their own population.

    Not sure I see how that's W's fault?
     
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    Read the article again, Nathan. Iraq was a secular nation before we invaded and these things were not happening then. So what changed? Oh, wait- we invaded and destabilized their country. Doesn't take a Mensa scholar to figure out what changed.

    My explanation for other countries in the ME? That's not obvious? Theocracy, which Iraq was not until we invaded.

    Here ya go- read up.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Iraq
     
  5. 184550 Guest

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    If only it were so clear cut as one seems to ignorantly believe. :(
     
  6. leekohler thread starter macrumors G5

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    Nathan, I've presented you with links. You cannot deny that we have played a major role in this. We destabilized a secular country and it turned into a theocracy. That makes Iraq much worse off for the Iraqi people and the US.

    Now, if you have any substantial point to make, then do so.
     
  7. MadeTheSwitch macrumors 6502a

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    Come on Lee, when you have a discussion with Nathan don't you know that you to provide evidence for both sides of the argument? Just like he wanted me to do on another subject. :D
     
  8. leekohler thread starter macrumors G5

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    I know, I shouldn't bother. :(
     
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    I spent four years in Iraq and I can easily say the local population preferred the Saddam rule to the rule after the U.S. invasion. You can ask anyone and almost all will agree things were better before we stuck our noses into things for no reason.

    (Thats right, no reason. WMD's are not a real reason).
     
  10. leekohler thread starter macrumors G5

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    Not to mention WMD's that weren't there in the first place.
     
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    Indeed good luck with Nathan, seems to always pick the other side no matter the new subject.
     

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