Irony is a Wonderful Thing

Discussion in 'Politics, Religion, Social Issues' started by bobber205, Sep 28, 2008.

  1. bobber205 macrumors 68020

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    Gallup has Obama up by 8.

    Obama has rebounded from the "palin" bounce and came out pretty far ahead.

    IMO, all this is because of the economy going down the crapper.

    Thank you Republicans for making the laws in such a way that lead to this disaster. :D It's too bad people have to suffer financially before they'll elect a Democrat. ;)

    I am curious: what do you guys think McCain will do next?
     
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    whoa whoa whoa, everyone knows its the dems who have been in control almost 2 years. Its there fault. Surely no laws that were passed before then are still in effect and lead us to this mess. Surely not.
     
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    The WaMu fiscal, and other economics has NOTHING to do with the republicans. Tell me, which republican gave the newly picked WaMu exect, who was only on the job 3 weeks, the $20 million separation package???

    Which republican senator or House, caused the banks to offer variable rate mortgages? Which republican made those same banks to fail? Which republican said "Lets raise the price of oil till no one can afford it?"

    Give me names please!

    Please get the facts straight before casting blame.

    :mad:
     
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    Since the Republicans have been in charge of everything for six of the last eight years, I'd say that they should really take the rap for all those regulatory failings.
     
  6. bobber205 thread starter macrumors 68020

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    Yeah. With an extremely slim majority. This mess was caused my deregulation. That's obvious. And who wants more deregulation? Republicans.

    It takes a sizeable majority to do anything in congress. If the GOP keeps blocking every bill the Dems try to pass, you can't put the blame on them for trying.

    Maybe they should have threatened the GOP members to vote with them? :confused:
     
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    I don't really understand how any of this is ironic. :confused:
     
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    I guess I meant to use the word that means the total opposite of irony? I'm not sure. Maybe this is to be expected.
     
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    Then please give me the evidence. Show me where they voted/approved/ratified anything that caused this.

    Clinton started the crap, with the NAFTA crap and letting jobs go south of the border, taking money from US suppliers. Let the Dems clean house if they want a scape goat.
     
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    "Ironic" probably means something different in US English.
     
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    The words "clutching", "at" and "straws" spring to mind.
     
  12. mkrishnan Moderator emeritus

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    Hey, first of all, that's "American" to you. :p And second of all, if King James English was good enough for Jesus Christ, it's good enough for you. :D Actually we only know the word from that Alanis song, and she's Canadian. :eek:
     
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    alot of the troubles we are seeing now are from the policies back in the 90's.... when you know clinton and greenspan were running the show. its not just the republicans fault......
     
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    The Republicans have had control of nearly all parts of Government for the past 6-8 years. Couple this with the Republican mantra of 'government deregulation' and voila you've arrived at this deep-hole.

    I absolutely fault Henry Paulson, Ben Bernanke and the entire Bush administration for not having the foresight to allude or alleviate these economic pressures; they have been far too reactionary.

    I agree, but this problem has exacerbated under the current administration for the reasons explained above.
     
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    Just how many years does a party have to be in power to accept responsibility for something? :confused:
     
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    I wonder how much money they're going to pay him for a sham marriage. Maybe they're promising him a cushy government job?
     
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    my post was supposed to be entirely sarcastic. Anyone that thinks a completely free market would work without being abused as it has been is an idiot. Has Mccain said anything since this mess about if he still wants to put our healthcare on the markets?
     
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    because of course these issues arose overnight lol
     
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    Shabby argument. Eight years is long enough to sort it out.
     
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    @ duke.

    You can at least admit the GOP did nothing for the mess "caused" by the Dems in the 90s during their 6 years in total power.
     
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    I'm guessing you are referring to the balanced budget ?
     
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    First, Google "phil gramm crisis". Then... read this...
    http://wonkroom.thinkprogress.org/2008/09/19/perino-challenge/

    Hope that helps,
    ~ CB
     
  23. avigalante macrumors 6502

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    Well, my fault in not recognizing the sarcasm!

    It's fairly clear that McCain wants to avoid the the financial crisis (and economics) at all costs. I reckon that he wanted to suspend the debate because of 'taking the higher ground' and 'helping out America at a time in need'; which in my book is AKA - 'I don't know what to say because it doesn't really affect me'.

    Or the plentiful surplus left at the end of Clinton's administration... :p
     
  24. bobber205 thread starter macrumors 68020

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    Shoot. Forgot about that! ;)
     
  25. NT1440 macrumors G4

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    srry it was my fault. My post was dripping in so much sarcasm that it actually sounded like a Republican excuse. The internet sucks at sarcasm.

    As for Mccain, it really appalls me that i see republican commentators avoiding the fact that hes doing literally nothing by side stepping and saying "at least hes showing leadership". So PR stunts are now a qualifyer for president.

    What the hell happened to this country?
     

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