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Discussion in 'Politics, Religion, Social Issues' started by LIVEFRMNYC, Nov 11, 2014.
My god the second video's person was insufferable.
Yes it's really that bad, so bad in fact that sometimes you can test the air on the west coast of the US and trace back some of those particulates all the way back to China. It used to be that bad here in the US and EU just within the last hundred years but we wised up and created laws regarding pollution. China is in the midst of working out new pollution laws. It's a step but they are finally realizing just how bad it is for them. Then again you realize it's bad when you have to ban people from driving and working to cut down on smog for a few days when world leaders are present.
That is just insane there is like a 25 foot area of visibility.
China is learning the lesson of all quickly developing industrial countries.
Japan in the 1950-1960 it was about the same.
Current Japanese environmental policy and regulations were the consequence of a number of environmental disasters in 1950s and 1960s. Cadmium poisoning from industrial waste in Toyama Prefecture was discovered to be the cause of the extremely painful itai-itai disease (イタイイタイ病 Itai itai byō?, lit. "ouch ouch sickness"). People in Minamata City in Kumamoto Prefecture were poisoned by methylmercury drained from the chemical factory, known as the Minamata disease. The number of casualties in Minamata is 6,500 as of November 2006.
In Yokkaichi, a port in Mie Prefecture, air pollution caused by sulfur dioxide and nitrogen dioxide emissions led to a rapid increase in the number of people suffering from asthma and bronchitis. In urban areas photochemical smog from automotive and industrial exhaust fumes also contributed to a rise in respiratory problems. In the early 1970s, chronic arsenic poisoning attributed to dust from arsenic mines occurred in Shimane and Miyazaki prefectures.
Consumers Union of Japan was founded in 1969 to deal with health problems and false claims by companies, as Japan's rampant industrial development was seen as causing problems for consumers and citizens. In the 1970s, Consumers Union of Japan led the opposition to nuclear power, calling for a nation-wide Anti-Nuclear Power Week Campaign.
There certainly isn't much blue sky in Chinese cities.
Dehli is much worse apparently.
For economic influence, China will have a day of reckoning and a huge health bill, that is if they pay for health programs over there. :-/
It was worse here in the 1950s.
Lets export Obamacare to China!!!!
I am starting to wonder if China has catalytic converters installed on their vehicles? Plus don't they have filters on their coal factories? No wonder they ship all their solar panels all over the world.
No, it wasn't.
The US never had the population density, or the meteorological conditions that modern-day China does. The US (fortunately) woke up to the looming ecological disaster in the 1960s, and made the necessary changes to slow, and in some cases, reverse the damage we were doing to our environment.
Started by the Nixon Administion.
He may be talking about The Great Smog of 1952 in England.
I have a few friends living in Hong Kong and coming for a visit here in Canada, they grew up here. The first thing they said was "wow, blue sky". They hardly have blue sky in Hong Kong because of the pollution coming from China.
My Cousin is in Shanghai teaching English. Pictures are horrible. She got a 2 week reprieve to come back home to Chattanooga and the biggest things she noted was how much she missed blue skies overhead.
It can be argued that half the country has fallen back asleep or have come to judge that profits > collective health.
Ive not been to beijing, but in some of ther industrialised cities I have been to in china it is that bad......
They will pay with their lives. Since their total population is well over 1 billion…. don't be surprised if in the next decade or so, they start dying of lung cancer (and related health issues) by the millions.
Not really trying to single out China, since Europe had experienced the same thing…. with the advent of the Industrial Revolution of the mid 19th century (and onwards).
I thought he was quite entertaining. Like a B-rated Bond movie villain.
I am in China very often and air quality is beyond horrible. Guangzhou,Shanghai and Beijing all have it pretty bad. When you look up from the ground on to many of the high rises there are many times that you can not see the top of the high rise building. When you are in a high rise building you can also see that a huge layer of pollution sits on top of the city like a toilet lid cover with the cra* at the bottom of the toilet bowl. Those 3 cities are now like toilet bowls with cra* at the bottom.
I do believe though that they government is working on getting their act together and cleaning things up. This of course will take time. Many cities are using electric taxis now and subways are becoming the more common method of transport.
Americans want cheap pillows and mattresses which create a lot of pollution as those memory foam products create a lot of pollution. Many cities in the US do not allow such factories to be set up in the US so as a result the Chinese make them for the Americans in China. The list of course goes on and on about what i not allowed to be manufactured in the US and what is in China. We contribute largely to their local pollution problems due to us wanting items for cheap that we can not get in the US.
Yeah, that's right! Let all those people with preexisting conditions suffer without insurance and let those cancer patients get kicked off their plans and die! Woohoo! 'Murica!
Let's burn more coal because, you know, nuclear power is like, scary and stuff.