Is Donald Trump is the New George Wallace?

Discussion in 'Politics, Religion, Social Issues' started by bradl, Apr 22, 2016.

  1. bradl macrumors 68040

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    Most people would say yes. Others who support him are simply saying that he is "strong" and will "Make America Great".

    We know we've seen and heard these things before, but when you have the parallels drawn by Wallace's own daughter, that should tell you how crazy Trump has become.

    http://www.npr.org/2016/04/22/475172438/donald-trump-and-george-wallace-riding-the-rage

    Wallace is right about one thing: We have seen a lot of 'rednecks' come out of the woodwork in this country as of late. But hopefully, Trump's demise will parallel Wallace's as well.

    BL.
     
  2. haxrnick macrumors 6502a

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    Why? Why does her opinion matter? Never heard of her until you made this thread.
     
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    Because the daughter of the first person to do this is also decrying Trump, his actions, and his followers, just as she decried her father back in the 60s. The same things Wallace did back then are the same things that Trump is doing now.

    I'd be really shocked if you had never heard of George Wallace or his actions in the 60s and early 70s. Because of the people's ignorance and fear back then, and Wallace feeding off that ignorance and fear, we are seeing history repeating itself because the lessons from back then have been lost on those today.

    And if Wallace's own daughter can see it, and you can't, that speaks volumes.

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    The nearly 50 year time span between Wallace and Trump shows that we didn't really change hatred and ignorance, we merely drove them underground. We used peer pressure to make them socially unacceptable, but that didn't make them go away.

    Now comes Trump, who finally unleashes those pent-up prejudices people have and justifies it as fighting "political correctness". The more things change...
     
  5. thewitt macrumors 68020

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    The Democrat party has spent this whole time dividing the nation with its class envy, corporate hate, policies to keep people from being successful, etc, to grow their power base.

    Why would you expect there to be any less hate with half of the politicians in America in power only because they foster hate?
     
  6. thermodynamic, Apr 23, 2016
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    Ignoring the fact that in an evolved governing style such as democracy or republic, opinions matter. Even yours. If you are going to say "Why does hers matter?" then would you not be upset if you were told how your opinion should not? Or would you be upset? Somehow, it stands more reason to believe you would feel upset.

    Now do you see why both yours and hers are important? It's for the same reason, or do you feel that only everyone who isn't you should be second class and walked all over or summarily disregarded?

    Oh, some never heard of Prince until he died. That should explain "Never heard of her until you made this thread". Doesn't matter how famous one is, one doesn't necessarily know.
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    Define "success", especially involving ethics or the lack thereof. Hostile takeovers, price wars to eliminate successful competition, et cetera - are these acceptable by you? Or at least until you're hit by it, in which case it'll still be all the liberals' fault...

    The GOP used to say that the US had no class system and anyone could get to the top. Explain the new change in attitude since it's pretty darn obvious they themselves now embrace a class system like they would a hundred concubines because it helps their cause of creating a class war but trying to blame everyone else for it and getting the rubes to readily believe it too. Seems to be working.

    More people have seen stagnant pay or reduced pay, even before the Great Recession but even since and with the "economic recovery" workers are still hurting and it was the GR that led to the $1.34T student loan debt, because companies demand people with degrees for even entry level jobs - or do you prefer people not get degrees so we can blissfully call 'em all "lazy"?! Anyway, all that (and other facets being ignored) means more people are not succeeding. Now paired with known and very relevant and qualifying facts of job offshoring, companies not valuing work, 35 years of deregulation and union busting, you cannot blame government for that. Especially when free market representatives have lobbyists making laws, including what made "Obamacare".

    How does one foster hate? By abuse, perhaps? How many more pay cuts will you endure while the top boss sees more bonuses to realize you've been abused? Or having to train replacement workers (due to ageism, H1B abuse, etc)? Or companies taking loads in corporate welfare when the same companies would, once they get done taking our money, continue the same policies that have hurt the country they take said corporate welfare from?

    Lastly, it's "Democratic Party", please get the term right, or else don't even begin to get upset if people call yours "Republicant", for which most will have to look up what the word "cant" means and it is not a misspelling of "can't". Indeed, "cant" is far more apropos given what the GOP has put out over the last few decades!
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    Why? Historically speaking, one word convinces nobody, unless the one who says it is a dictator demanding subjects be sheep.
     
  7. Gutwrench macrumors 65816

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    I really enjoy watching how Trump's candidacy is causing some people's head to explode.
     
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    LOL!

    I literally said this in another thread:

    I hereby dub this type of speech "Trumpspeak". Its defining characteristics are bluster, the use of little words, repetition, and meaningless superlatives. :D
     
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    I'm not all that fond of how so many international heads of state are just sort of bobbling in disbelief. The guy's not even the nominee (yet?) but just his ascension through the ranks of the GOP candidates with at least somewhat more credibility is seen as traumatic abroad. Our ambassadors are probably earning their pay for a change, running around reassuring their counterparts that there's no way we'll elect a President Donald Trump. I can only hope they're right...
     
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    Trump is much more dangerous than Wallace. Wallace was mainly a cynical politician willing to exploit the ignorance of rural southerners if that is what he had to do to get elected. Huey Long and Benito Mussolini are a better fit.
     
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    You live, quite literally, in a grossly partisan fantasy world, filled with tales of heroic Republicans taking a stand against cartoonishly villainous Democrats.

    As much as I'd like to engage you in an honest discussion of your beliefs, you never respond to anything that runs counter to your strange political dogma. All you do is shout random weirdness into the forum, then run off without saying any word in response to what you've stirred up.

    It makes me wonder why you even post here. You're obviously not here for the discourse. It's more like your some extremist advertising bot.
     
  12. MadeTheSwitch macrumors 6502a

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    Classy envy? Nope. I don't hate rich people. In fact, a lot of rich people are in fact democrats themselves.

    Corporate hate? Nope. I only hate corporations when they do something shady to boost profits. Things like tax cheating, dumping toxic chemicals into a river, destroying the environment, paying people minimum wage when they could afford to do more, paying women less to save on payroll...stuff like that.

    Policies to keep people from being successful? Nope. Why would you think that? Again, there are rich successful democrats out there.

    Meanwhile the Republican Party has been dividing people with their takers not makers and "free stuff" comments, their attack on women's choice, their attack on gay rights, their attack on people's healthcare and now their choice in frontrunners. If you want to see who is dividing people, look closer to home!
     
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    Stop making fun of Big D, He is your new Master
     
  14. steve knight macrumors 68020

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    master blaster.
     
  15. bradl thread starter macrumors 68040

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    Please, leave Stevie Wonder out of this. ;)

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    indeed when hes done with america it will look like mad max's world

    how cool is dat!
     
  17. thewitt macrumors 68020

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    Whatever results from the upcoming Trump presidency will be 1000 times better than any results under Clinton or Bernie-Marx
     
  18. MadeTheSwitch macrumors 6502a

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    From your point of view. Thankfully not everyone shares your view. Even other Republicans.
     
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    Some obervations are self-evident, i.e.:

    Bill Nye the Science Guy is not the new Albert Einstein.
    Justin Bieber is not the new Jim Croce.
    Johnny Manziel is not the new Bart Starr.
    That crazy Uber lady in Florida is not the new Dr. Schweitzer.

    Those fundamental axioms are understood.
     
  20. steve knight macrumors 68020

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    1000 huh trump is God then.
     
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    1000? really?


    really??







    really????










    really 1000 times?????
     
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    Can't blame Debbie Elliot and Wallace for trying. We are nearing the anniversary of Trump's announcement to run for president, despite near daily predictions and wishful thinking of his dropping out or losing, atop attacks and predictions of ill will and policies gone wrong.
     

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