Other Is every release on a new model iPhone as fraught with as many complaints, problems, and concerns as I'm reading here?

[Splitrail]

I'm relatively new here, and to "smart phones" as well, and I'm surprised at how many issues people are having with their iPhone 14's!
Did this happen with the iPhone 12, iPhone 11.................?

 

[nrvna76]

In short. Yes.

 

[justinf77]

Yes. Happens every single year without fail.

 

[Splitrail]

How is that?
Why?

 

[mikethebigo]

Absolutely yes

Even in the very early days of iPhones, you would fight for hours to activate your phone, and your screen would come literally piss yellow 😂

 

[Gsxr750]

Usually it’s worse. By now there’s usually at least 4 different attempts at something “gate”.

 

[Paddle1]

How is that?
Why?

Because out of the large amount of devices sold a varying percentage of people will run into issues or have questions. There's little to no motivation/reason to make a post if everything is going fine so it's always skewed in favor of negative posts.

 

[Vazza]

How is that?
Why?

People are always more likely to post about problems they are experiencing with any electronic device than those who have had no issues, once the hype dies down.

 

[seezar]

It’s par for the course for any smartphone release, not just iPhones.

 

[Deedeekay]

I've been using Apple computers since the Apple IIe. Been online since the PM 6500.

Fallout Narrator Voice:

"Tech whining. Tech whining never changes."

And with Apple, there seems to be profoundly more both from fans and detractors.

Sure, some of it's legit, but a lot of it is blown so far out of proportion that I've learned to just ignore most of it.

 

[antiprotest]

How is that?
Why?

There are many Apple devices in use so the number of problems are bound to be more. As in even 0.01% of a billion would be many in number.

Another factor is definitely that Apple is not as good at their job as many loyalists give them credit for. You will see bugs that sometimes get fixed after a whole decade, and sometimes still not fixed after that long.

BUT, I have used Windows and Android, and I have ran into even more problems with them, and I still prefer Apple software and hardware in terms of design and quality.

 

[AppleB]

I’ve had every series of iPhone except the 13. The only one I returned for a replacement was a iPhone 3GS where the speaker stopped working. So I’ve had a great experience with iPhones.
The worse phone I’ve had hands down not even a question was a
Evo 3D. I was that guy in Android forums complaining. That thing was garbage.

 

[usmaak]

It’s par for the course for any smartphone release, not just iPhones.

Exactly. I also follow xda-developers and there are just as many complaints on every new android phone. And they are all pretty much the same complaints as you see here. Weird tints, overheating, wifi issues, weak phone signal, scratches, separating glass and other manufacturing flaws, battery issues…

 

[klasma]

How is that?
Why?

Technology has become too complex for its own good, and Apple wants to release new hardware and software every year, which often means it’s an exceedingly ambitious deadline. Corners are cut, implementations are rushed. The complexity “under the hood” is staggering.

But it’s also worth noting that many of the issues only really affect a minority of users.

 

[usmaak]

I’ve had every series of iPhone except the 13. The only one I returned for a replacement was a iPhone 3GS where the speaker stopped working. So I’ve had a great experience with iPhones.
The worse phone I’ve had hands down not even a question was a
Evo 3D. I was that guy in Android forums complaining. That thing was garbage.

I had an Evo 4G, which was the Evo before the 3D. That 3D was a gimmick that fell flat and never went anywhere. The Evo 4G was largely crap as well. It was Sprint’s first 4G phone, but they didn’t have a lot of 4G towers and the 4G that they had did not penetrate walls well. And the 3G on it was terrible. The phone was easily rooted though and had an amazing developer community. I had a ton of fun loading ROMs on it.

 

[Splitrail]

Pardon my naivete', but this is truly amazing to me.
I'm no tech genius, but managed to find my way into an iPhone 13 PRO last year with the only problems encountered were my own inexperience, and by seeking information here and through the internet, managed to work through them.
It was looked upon and accepted as a "learning curve", and I took it as a challenge and found the answers.
It's still an ongoing process.
But is it the new line of phones or the new line of phone owners?
I see a lot of prior iPhone owners having trouble.
Was I just lucky?

 

[sjperformance]

Yes because of the competition between fanboys. Also people expect astronomical leaps from our devices. Based on my history and what I’ve learned tech is taking baby steps not giant leaps. Why? Well they gotta stay relevant and make money. In the end it’s a business.

 

[usmaak]

Pardon my naivete', but this is truly amazing to me.
I'm no tech genius, but managed to find my way into an iPhone 13 PRO last year with the only problems encountered were my own inexperience, and by seeking information here and through the internet, managed to work through them.
It was looked upon and accepted as a "learning curve", and I took it as a challenge and found the answers.
It's still an ongoing process.
But is it the new line of phones or the new line of phone owners?
I see a lot of prior iPhone owners having trouble.
Was I just lucky?

I think it’s a mix. It’s technology and there will be flaws and manufacturing errors and examples of defective iPhones. And there are some people who are more sensitive to different tint issues. I’m one those types, though I have found that if I stick with a device long enough that I stop seeing them. I have never had a phone with a completely even screen. Some people can see what I’m talking about and some don’t.

 

[MrMacintoshIII]

Usually it’s worse. By now there’s usually at least 4 different attempts at something “gate”.

I’m calling it now, this year is cameragate.

 

[lrucker]

How is that?
Why?

Major releases have a hard deadline to hit, especially if there's new hardware because it has to be on the hardware. At some point, a couple of weeks before that date, development shifts to "make it as stable as possible". The code base splits into "release" and "release.0.1"; bug fixes go into r.0.1 unless they're fixing something critical.

It's not just Apple; everything that comes out in major versions does this. Basically, do not jump on a r.0.0 release; wait for a r.0.1.

It was worse back in the days when releases came on CD-ROMs - the cutoff date was a month or so before ship date.

 

[eyoungren]

I've been on the forums here since 2011 and have followed all the launches (although not getting a new iPhone each time).

This is about the quietest launch I've seen yet.

Either that or mods have been merging threads or moving posts into the launch threads.

In any case it used to be that you could hardly go a few seconds without refreshing the browser and seeing a new thread. The iPhone 5 launch itself had more threads about Scuffgate than you'd believe. They all got merged into a 500+ page thread.

Honestly I was expecting way more thread posting than I'm finding at this point.

 

[The.Glorious.Son]

I've been on the forums here since 2011 and have followed all the launches (although not getting a new iPhone each time).

This is about the quietest launch I've seen yet.

Either that or mods have been merging threads or moving posts into the launch threads.

In any case it used to be that you could hardly go a few seconds without refreshing the browser and seeing a new thread. The iPhone 5 launch itself had more threads about Scuffgate than you'd believe. They all got merged into a 500+ page thread.

Honestly I was expecting way more thread posting than I'm finding at this point.

Maybe the "iPhone 14....Just say NO" thread convinced the masses not to upgrade this year 🤣

 

[riccinini]

I'm relatively new here, and to "smart phones" as well, and I'm surprised at how many issues people are having with their iPhone 14's!
Did this happen with the iPhone 12, iPhone 11.................?

Are you surprised?

The suckers complain like mad and then rush back every year to buy the new maxed out model every September. We're getting close to the point where Apple will start shipping empty boxes for $2000.

 

[azhava]

Pardon my naivete', but this is truly amazing to me.
I'm no tech genius, but managed to find my way into an iPhone 13 PRO last year with the only problems encountered were my own inexperience, and by seeking information here and through the internet, managed to work through them.
It was looked upon and accepted as a "learning curve", and I took it as a challenge and found the answers.
It's still an ongoing process.
But is it the new line of phones or the new line of phone owners?
I see a lot of prior iPhone owners having trouble.
Was I just lucky?

No, you're just less OCD than many. 😄

 

[AppleB]

Anyone remember Compass and Level Gate?