Is it normal for iPod battery to run out even while its off?

Discussion in 'Macintosh Computers' started by BeanTownBrawler, Jul 25, 2004.

  1. BeanTownBrawler macrumors member

    Jul 17, 2004
    I left my 4g ipod off for a day and noticed when I turned it on it was about 1/6th more drained then when I left it. I know the LiOn battery is "always on" but is it that dramatic that you notice it? Is this normal?
  2. MacFan26 macrumors 65816


    Jan 8, 2003
    San Francisco, California
    yeah, mine does that too (3g). I thought there could be a problem with it too, but it's apparently normal of those batteries.
  3. Sol macrumors 68000


    Jan 14, 2003
    Use Hold

    I have read about this problem before. You have to use the Hold button to stop the jog-wheel draining the battery. With the Hold on the 'off' position the jog wheel draws a small current in order to be instantly responsive.
  4. Horrortaxi macrumors 68020


    Jul 6, 2003
    Los Angeles
    All batteries lose their charge when they're just sitting there. It's their nature and it can't be helped. In your car, phone, flashlight, whatever if you let them sit long enough they'll die.

    I'd say the iPod batteries do die a little on the fast side when you don't use them--from full to dead in few days. Apparently the first preproduction iPods had that problem to an insane extent. They fixed it well enough to put the product out but we're still not in the best of situations.
  5. Jalexster macrumors 6502a

    Jun 8, 2004
    It is because the 1G, 2G, 3G (and possible the mini) iPods don't actully power-down. They just go into sleep mode when you power them down, so they can turn back on quickly, and they keep draining power.

    The 4G iPods completly turn off when you power them down. That means they don't drain the battery, but they take longer to turn back on.

    For those who just turn thier iPods off by letting it sit idle, that will put in in sleep mode, even on the 4G (I think). To completely turn a 4G off, hold the play/pause button down for a few seconds. Doing this on a 1G, 2G or 3G just puts it to sleep, same as letting it sit idle.

    Okay, I've said the same thing multiple times, so I'm done.
  6. C-Mezak macrumors regular


    Jul 14, 2004
    Edinburgh, Scotland
    Are you sure about that? I have a 4G iPod and I have no delay at all when waking up my ipod, whether I left it idle or actually turned it off.

    Im no techie, but it seems to me that keeping the ipod asleep is a better power-saving solution (at least for short-term periods) because it means avoiding the hard drive work that goes along with a boot.

  7. BeanTownBrawler thread starter macrumors member

    Jul 17, 2004

    Yup same for me, and my 4G does drain itself :confused:
  8. michaelrjohnson macrumors 68020

    Aug 9, 2000
    Mine does seem to be draining a bit faster than the 3G that I had for a week (Bought and returned under Cram & Jam). This an issue?
  9. rueyeet macrumors 65816


    Jun 10, 2003
    I just picked up my 2nd gen iPod after fully charging it a week ago, and the battery wasn't even down one bar. I've noticed that my mini drains a LOT faster when left alone, and I leave them both on Hold when not using them.

    Apple recommends using the Hold switch rather than turning the iPod off, along with turning off things like the Alarm Clock and Calendar and so forth. If you go to their Knowledge Base and look up iPod Battery Tips I'm sure you can find something.

    Oh, and don't leave the iPod charging if the power source it's hooked to isn't turned on (for instance, plugged into the Firewire port of a sleeping laptop) or the current reverses and the battery will drain. Found that one out the hard way. ;)
  10. janey macrumors 603


    Dec 20, 2002
    sunny los angeles
    i've been giving this one link to soooo many people who bitch about iPod batteries, or just batteries in general. I think Apple does a great job attempting to explain the (very simple) way as to how batteries work.

    I know this is ever so slightly off topic, but speaking of iPod batteries, I really need to rant, and I'm hoping at least one person out there will shush about the problems they have with a year old, well used iPod. Gah.

    Batteries weren't one of my pet peeves before, but thanks to the ubiquitousness of the iPod, it's just unbelievably frustrating now. By paying hundreds of dollars for a gadget like the iPod, people somehow forget that rechargeable batteries, and all batteries in general, eventually just die (why cant they do the same ***** thing with laptops, cellphones and even watches?!). Maybe its the seemingly prohibitive yet EASY disassembly method (read: screwdriver/something flat and strong + your iPod + new $70 battery = old iPod with new battery), or maybe its just the way people think when it comes to the iPod (ie I paid $400 for this POS a year ago and it doesnt work now omg that sucks im going to go bitch to everyone that apple sucks and that i want a refund...).

    I have no problem with people who have legitimate battery problems (4 hours on a full charge on a 2 week old iPod, for example), but I can't stand people who complain about how they left their iPod charging for several hours, and they only get 6 or 7 hours out of it, ONE DAMNED YEAR AFTER THEY PURCHASED IT, AFTER A YEAR OF USAGE...what the hell?!

    Okay, back to the regularly scheduled programming...
  11. BeanTownBrawler thread starter macrumors member

    Jul 17, 2004
    I'm not bitching, I just got this iPod and I wanna make sure its working fine.

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