Is it ok to use an Apple Watch w/o an iPhone?

Discussion in 'Apple Watch' started by California King, Aug 28, 2015.

  1. California King macrumors 65816

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    I recently received a Note 5 to use from Samsung's "test drive" program and want to use that and leave my iPhone at home. I still want to use my Apple watch since I can still use it for time and Apple Pay, but I am wondering if there could be any kind of problems. For example, does Apple Pay still work without my iPhone present or will this drain battery quicker since Bluetooth will be constantly looking for an iPhone?
     
  2. cambookpro macrumors 603

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    I doubt it'd have any discernible effect on battery life.

    Apple Pay will still work without your iPhone.
     
  3. Armen macrumors 604

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    Just don't put the Stylus backwards into the Note 5. It literally will get stuck and you'll break the phone if you force it out.
     
  4. zetaplus93 macrumors regular

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    Yup, should work without issues. Apple pay works without the iPhone.

    Siri and several other features that requires wifi will also work (for the most part).
     
  5. BlueMoon63 macrumors 68000

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    I was surprised at how much you can do without the iPhone on or not with you as long as th wi-fi is a known network. My entire city is on wi-fi and I can do so much without the iPhone with me. At work my phone is locked in my desk all day and I was showing some naysayers how much it can do while I was up on the 10th floor and my iPhone was down on the 3rd. I was sending them text messages with Siri and adding appts to my work calendar and setting up reminders and alarms and more. All using Siri and all without touching the screen once. Two have since bought apple watches.
     
  6. Rogifan macrumors P6

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    How do you know if you're in range of a known wifi network? I don't think there's anything that tells you you're connected to wifi is there?
     
  7. JayLenochiniMac macrumors G5

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    I think he/she was just reporting from experience with the iPhone.
     
  8. BarracksSi macrumors 68040

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    Experimenting with my phone on Airplane Mode and my Watch on OS 1.01 --

    I can't load Maps, but I can use Siri to set reminders when my phone is off my wifi network. Weather will not load, and Remote isn't looking for my Apple TV.
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  9. zetaplus93 macrumors regular

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    FWIW, you can ask Siri for the weather, humidity, etc to compensate for the lack of being able to use the weather app.
     
  10. Enygmatic macrumors 6502a

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    I can't wait until this is the case in more places, minus the advancements in ad-placement.
     
  11. BarracksSi macrumors 68040

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    Btw, this is all changing with WatchOS2, isn't it?
     
  12. Mac 128 macrumors 601

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    Presumably because you know you have wifi at home, and wifi at work, and wifi at Starbucks, etc. unless the wifi is down at one of your regular locations, the watch will automatically log in, assuming you've already logged into via your iPhone before.

    This has been the case since the beginning, and a selling point for me.
     
  13. Rogifan macrumors P6

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    Ah ok. So as long as you've logged in with your iPhone the Watch considers it known wifi.
     
  14. BlueMoon63, Aug 29, 2015
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    BlueMoon63 macrumors 68000

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    Rogifan, you are correct, there is no icon or indication that you are using wi-fi when blue-tooth is off or out of range with the phone. It even shows the red square icon at the top saying you are not connected (I understand that blue-tooth is disconencted, but with wi-fi, you are not truly disconnected). I am using OS2 beta 5 and this is one feature I do not like at all and wish it would either show a wi-fi connected icon or at least turn off the disconnect red icon. If you just turn off blue-tooth it may even take time to show the disconnect, but it will come up.

    With blue-tooth off or out of range, you basically have to test by sending IM messages or setup reminders or appts or ask siri for some question that requires her to use the internet. I don't like that...

    When I was showing people how the watch worked even when my iPhone was 7 floors below me and the red icon on, they were surprised that it was working and didn't believe me when I asked Siri to remind me about something or add a calendar event - even when she said "I will remind you" or she added the appt. She would show delivered when I sent them IM messages (they both have iPhones) but they were still skeptical about the other things so we went to my desk and took my phone out and saw the appts and reminders and the delivered messages on my iPhone. They were at least satisfied that wi-fi worked but they still thought it was just sending to the phone which in turn was sending the text messages and updating the calendar. I told them "duh" for the appts and reminders, but for a test, we shutoff my phone completely and I was still able to add appts and reminders and send them IM Messages and even ask siri for a conversion question.

    When I turned the phone back on, the message and appt and reminders eventually showed back on the iphone so it was stored and then forwarded for updating but I still got a reminder just from the watch.

    I hope all that made sense? My response looked busy but I hope they do something about the disconnect or at least a wi-fi type connection.
     
  15. Rogifan macrumors P6

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    If the watch can connect to no one Wi-Fi networks without needing the phone in range it should be indicated somewhere on the Watch. Either settings should show you a Wi-Fi indicator or that red icon should go away. But honestly if the watch can connect to Wi-Fi without needing the phone I wish it would allow us to manually connect like we can on the phone.
     
  16. zetaplus93 macrumors regular

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    That may come in a future update.

    Typing passwords on the watch is a crapshoot given the small screen and touch targets, so perhaps that's one reason they've kept it off.
     
  17. dacreativeguy macrumors 68020

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    Your Mickey might get out of sync!
     
  18. Rogifan macrumors P6

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    Yeah that makes sense. But it would be nice to have some sort of indicator that you actually are connected to wifi.
     
  19. BarracksSi macrumors 68040

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    Going the other way, I can make my iPhone and AW connect to each other via wifi by turning off BT on the phone. Wifi becomes the only choice, of course, and all the AW's functions still work.
     
  20. BlueMoon63, Sep 1, 2015
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    BlueMoon63 macrumors 68000

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    Do you find it annoying that the watch shows as disconnected? It doesn't really bother me but OCD's might go bonkers. :)
     
  21. GrumpyMom macrumors 601

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    Are you gone to post about your Note 5 Test drive on the non Apple part of this forum? I wanted to give that one a test drive myself. It wasn't available when I went to register for it. Then I decided not to bother because I already have too many library books and deadlines and appointments to keep track of as a mom. Sigh.
     

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