Is it possible to install OS X 10.4 from upgrade disc without 10.3 already installed?

Discussion in 'macOS' started by shortstop20, Jul 7, 2009.

  1. shortstop20 macrumors newbie

    Jul 7, 2009
    First off let me say I am basically a Mac newb so be as clear as possible. :D

    I am doing some contract work for a company who is buying some new Mac's with OS X 10.5, and I'm messing around with a G3 Imac(tower), just trying to get used to Mac's so I'm not scratching my head while I'm setting up the new Mac's.

    This G3 used to have OS X 10.3 on it. Originally the plan was just to format and re-install 10.3. Well I formatted the HDD and then the supposed "10.3 install discs" would not work, just gave me some error that said, "bundled software could not be installed". Never even gave me an option to install OS X 10.3. I don't think they're even 10.3 install discs, seems like it's just additional software. So I now have a 10.4 disc, but it's an upgrade disc and it won't let me install 10.4 on the system because 10.3 is not on the system(because I formatted the HDD). So for the time being I'm screwed.

    Is there any way to install Mac OS X 10.4 WITHOUT already having OS X 10.3 on the system? I've looked online a little bit but the methods I have tried have not worked.

    Any help is much appreciated. Remember, I'm a Mac newb, I know the Windows world really well but Mac's are like aliens to me. :D
  2. redking31591 macrumors 6502

    Jul 10, 2008
    First: Welcome to the World of Mac :) question: What color is the computer. If It is a tower there is no possible way that the computer is a iMac. iMac's always have been and always will be an all in one. If It is a tower G3 that is beige it will not run tiger. If it is a blue and white G3 it will run it(I think). You should be able to install tiger without 10.3 because in 05' when tiger came out people were still running OS 9.2. I don't know if you need 9.2 to run tiger. But first I would check and make sure the computer will even run tiger. It all depends on the color. Also I would check on ebay for the old restore disks that match your computer. That would give you the shipping OS from which you could almost certainly run the upgrade disks.
  3. shortstop20 thread starter macrumors newbie

    Jul 7, 2009
    Sorry, it's a G3 tower, blueish green/white, just like this one.


    I guess I just figured it would run Tiger fine since it never gave me a message that said it wouldn't upon booting to the CD.

    It meets the minimum system specs.
  4. redking31591 macrumors 6502

    Jul 10, 2008
    hmmm. I don't know. That system has the new world rom so it will run leopard. Is the hard drive completely clean. Are you sure your installing correctly. everything I know says that the upgrade disk is only that in name and contains the full system.
  5. redking31591 macrumors 6502

    Jul 10, 2008
    In case of total failure. you can usually find a copy of tiger online they can be a little expensive though. some where in the range of $100 to $200. also maybe someone you know might just so happen to have a copy of leopard laying around.
  6. alphaod macrumors Core


    Feb 9, 2008
    If you're going to promote that, might as well just download it right away. :rolleyes:
  7. shortstop20 thread starter macrumors newbie

    Jul 7, 2009
    I don't mean to sound condescending but when I boot to the CD and it says, "You must have OS X 10.3 installed on this system in order to upgrade to OS X 10.4. Please install OS X 10.3 first". So yes, I'm sure I'm doing it right. The hard drive is formatted and completely blank.
  8. Lordedmond macrumors regular

    Oct 24, 2008
    Tilchestune UK
    there is a way but i don't think I can say here , just google it for an answer

    its to to do with selecting a setting and back tracking :eek:
  9. pdjudd macrumors 601

    Jun 19, 2007
    Plymouth, MN
    How are you trying to update to Tiger? Are these retail discs or Up-to-date discs? Up-To-Date discs may indeed require a prior OS installed as a proof of purchase.

    Are your 10.3 discs restore discs and if so, are they the one of your tower (restore discs tend to be machine specific)? Do you still have the original restore discs?

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