is MBA have 400mbps?? vs vertex 3? or vs vertex 2?? which one faster??

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  1. jameshk macrumors member

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    is MBA have 400mbps?? vs vertex 3? or vs vertex 2?? which one faster??
    anyone own MBA can do benchmark on the write n read point??:confused:
     
  2. WardC macrumors 68030

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    I have the same curiosity to know the answer to this ---

    Tests show the new 2011 13" 256GB SSD to be much faster than the 128GB SSD on the 11" -- which leads me to believe Apple adopted the faster SSD technology on the new 13" (maybe only the 256GB) and not the 11"

    Maybe the 11" 256GB SSD has the faster speed as well. I don't have enough information to know this yet.
     
  3. PaulWog Suspended

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    Don't purchase an OCZ Vertex 2 or Vertex 3 unless if you want a broken SSD relatively quickly.

    I've gone through two of those things, and the third I sold. I did my research and found that they claim that 1 in 100 are faulty (an OCZ rep said that on their RMA website). But they also said that nine out of ten times, the drives that are sent in to their RMA department are not deemed as "faulty", rather they are deemed as "panic locked". The difference: None. Panic lock means the drive has to be sent in for repair anyway, as the consumer cannot unlock it.

    So their 1% failure rate just climbed 10 fold. And they just admitted this. They said only 1% fail, and 9/10 times what is RMA'd is "panic locked" (must be sent in anyways). So 10% of the SSD's are admittedly bad.

    On top of this, they are fudging their numbers. They have a much larger failure rate. For every 1% they've fudged away, that's an extra 10% of the SSD's they sell that end up RMA'd.

    Just a heads up: Don't buy OCZ! You'll get burned.
     
  4. Philflow macrumors 65816

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    I already knew Sandforce (OCZ) drives show bad reliability on Newegg. But that was interesting to read Paul.
     
  5. Orlandoech macrumors 68040

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    This is dumb. I have a Vertex 3 MAX IOPS, no issues. I owned a Vertex 2 (2 of them) no issues EVER and also a Vertex for 2yrs with no issues EVER.
     
  6. Mikael macrumors regular

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    I think this rumor was just some sort of misunderstanding somewhere. The 400MB/s figure was probable supposed to be 400Mb/s (=50MB/s), referring to each NAND chip's maximum speed. An SSD is composed of several NAND chips and a controller, thus achieving higher transfer speeds than what a single chip can.

    So, without knowing anything about Apple's implementation of these chips (i.e. how many of them, which controller, etc.), there's not much we can say about it.
     
  7. Philflow macrumors 65816

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    I think you're lucky. There's no SSD on Newegg that gets worse ratings than the Vertex 2:
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227551
    That's 105x 1 star reviews.
     
  8. PaulWog Suspended

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    Ohhh of course! Your anecdotal evidence is ground-breaking and sets the rules of the world for everyone around you. -_-
     
  9. kappaknight macrumors 68000

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    Isn't 50MB/s the same as a standard hard drive? That seems very slow for a SSD to me.
     
  10. bp1000 macrumors 65816

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    Whatever chip is in the new MBA's it's quick

    Certainly quicker than last years model judging by the benchmarks on laptopmag IF, they are correct and not made up for link bait.
     
  11. jameshk thread starter macrumors member

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    how do u check vertex 3 algility got error??? i bought 1 vertex 3 and 1 corsair F120...planning to get mba but 50mbps seem very slow....but on youtube i see other people boot up mac very fast...how come??:confused:
     
  12. jameshk thread starter macrumors member

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    and my macbook pro 15" i install corsair F120...i install window7 system only...and when i boot up the white screen seem abit longer to get in windows...is there any setting i need to do? or my ssd got problem?? :confused:
     
  13. Philflow macrumors 65816

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    The normal MBA SSDs do 200 - 260 MB/sec.

    In real world performance it feels as fast as Vertex 3. I've owned both.

    The only thing that's noticeably faster with SATA III drives is file copies.

    Windows 7 will never boot fast on MBP unfortunately. Even Vertex 3 and Crucial M4 took 25 - 28 seconds on my MBP.

    On a Windows laptop they can boot in ± 11 seconds.
     
  14. jameshk thread starter macrumors member

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    paul said ocz alot error...what kind of error is that??and how do i check it??i still got warranty wanna change it if got problem..tq
     
  15. Philflow macrumors 65816

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    If you don't experience any problems your SSD probably doesn't have issues. Enjoy.
     
  16. jameshk thread starter macrumors member

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    >_<" sometime i running window7 and idle too long the display card will stop respond awhile...is this the ssd problem??or i need to update my mbp 15 driver? i dunno where to upgrade it... >_<"
     
  17. Mikael macrumors regular

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    As I said in my post, an SSD doesn't just use one of those 50MB/s NAND chips. Combining several of them, you can get transfer speeds of several hundred megabytes per second. Without knowing those details for the Air's SSD, we can't really say much.
     
  18. Philflow macrumors 65816

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    Not sure what you mean but if you experiences freezing, you need to update the firmware on your SSD.

    Last version for OCZ Agility 3/Vertex 3 is 2.09.

    Firmware updates are explained on OCZ forums... but it ain't easy.
     
  19. jameshk thread starter macrumors member

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    where can i check my ssd version?? and where can i update mbp 15 driver??:confused:
     
  20. Philflow macrumors 65816

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    About this Mac, more info, SATA.

    Choose Update software in the left upper corner
     
  21. jameshk thread starter macrumors member

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    sorry...i install vertex 3 ssd i direct install window7 only...mac system didn't put on it..coz 120gb space so limit for me...sorry..can window7 check?and the bootcamp how to update??can't find update button on it... >_<"
     
  22. Philflow macrumors 65816

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    Oh yes. Use Crystal Disk Info. It will tell you what firmware you're using.

    Apple software updater should update your bootcamp.
     
  23. jameshk thread starter macrumors member

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    where is the apple software update??:confused: i can't find it...
     
  24. Philflow macrumors 65816

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    Start, Programs, Apple Software Update.

    If you don't see it there it should be listed under 'Program Files (x86)' on your bootcamp hard drive.
     
  25. jameshk thread starter macrumors member

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    hah...icon so near me also can't find....damn XXXX me
    thanks phil...i own ya...got chance i wanna treat u a meal.. ;)
     

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