Is mobileme the tool that Apple will use to unlock the iPad's awesomeness?

Discussion in 'iPad' started by anthonymoody, Mar 3, 2010.

  1. anthonymoody macrumors 68020

    Aug 8, 2002
    As many of you know I'm an unabashed fan of what we know about the iPad. I also have some pretty grand predictions about where it all goes. As I've refined my thinking on the what, I've more recently begun to wonder about the how. So I wonder: is mobileme going to get a serious revamp/update alongside the next OS release and shipments of the iPad, and become the tool that makes the iPad insanely great?

    Here's what I'd like to see:

    Email: I don’t use the mobileme email address because I already have my primary business email, and both a gmail and yahoo account. The last thing I need is another one. What I’d like however is the ability to use mobileme’s push email in seamless conjunction with another email account (which otherwise lacks push). The hitch is that you cannot spoof the “from” address. Mobileme’s servers won’t let you.

    So yes, you can forward an email address to your mobileme address which’d then get pushed to your device. But when you respond, people will see the mobileme address rather than your preferred address (even if only buried in the header). It feels unprofessional to me and so I don’t do this. This doesn’t relate specifically to the iPad but I want it anyway!

    Photos: To be honest I don’t use the gallery app, or mobileme galleries in general. It’s something I probably should do as it’d probably be a neat way to quickly push pix of the kids off to grandma and grandpa (on their iPhones…) so maybe I’ll have to figure that out. However, what I’d *really* love to see is for the Gallery portion of mobileme to become cloud storage for iPhoto (or ‘Photos’ on our devices). So there would be no distinction b/c the two, and you’d not be limited by your local storage size.

    Music/Video: as with photos, I dream of the cloud storage/sync scenario, with streaming as a bandwidth-dependent option. There has been a steadily increasing amount of buzz that Apple is pushing for exactly this, however both music labels and movie studios are apparently pushing back for the moment. I don't think they can hold out forever. As soon as there's at least one viable alternative, they'll offer this capability up to Apple as well.

    iDisk: we’ve all speculated about a “file system” of sorts on the iPad, and we know that on some level the iPad drive will be mountable when attached to a mac. But what else will we be able to do? How much finder-like control will we have to sort data (as opposed to simply storing it)? How robust will our ability to access and share the data be? A more robust version of iDisk could essentially become the ‘file system’ on the iPad, while also providing essentially unlimited cloud back ups of any/all docs.

    As I mentioned on my blog, much of what I outline above could be handled on an app by app basis, and not necessarily rolled into mobileme. But as I ponder, I kind of like the integrated approach, especially since I’m already a mobileme user. It'd also make mobileme more of a 'must have' for iPad users - especially those like me who want to use it as their primary computer. And obviously it ups the avg revenue per iPad customer which, given the relatively low pricing on the iPad is something that would obviously make Apple happy.

    What do you guys think?
  2. Night Spring macrumors G5

    Night Spring

    Jul 17, 2008
    Personally, I think cloud-computing is overrated. It has its uses (I've recently started using DropBox to swap files with my co-workers, and it works great), but it also has serious limitations. For instance, here in NYC, there's no cellular signal inside subways, so during most of my commute time, I have no internet access. Which means any feature that is dependent on mobileme or other cloud acceess is useless to me. Maybe eventually they'll get around to providing wifi in subway cars, but that will be some time away, knowing how slow the MTA moves.
  3. arkitect macrumors 601


    Sep 5, 2005
    Bath, United Kingdom
    In a word:

    Not unless they vastly increase speed and actual functionality.
  4. Jaro65 macrumors 68040


    Mar 27, 2009
    Seattle, WA
    I really like the fact that I have all of my MobileMe files available on my iPhone. Though viewing the spreadsheets and other documents is really constrained by the small screen. The iPad is going to make this far more enjoyable. Looking forward to it. I really don't use MobileMe for anything else right now. It is already good enough for me since it facilitates the contact/calendar sync and also the aforementioned remote file access.
  5. samcraig macrumors P6

    Jun 22, 2009
    1. For the few months I had MobileMe with my iPhone - I was able to do the workaround to get email to/from mobileme using my corporate address seamlessly. When I replied - it came from my real address. You can google the "fix". But yes - to have mobileme do it natively would be a good start

    2. Apple is already trying to get movies/tv into the cloud for delivery to their devices as you said. And In the meantime, you can already upload movies to MobileMe and stream them to your computer/device

    In short - your suggestions are "fine" I guess - but I don't think it would suddenly make the iPad any better than it already is.
  6. Bodhi395 macrumors 6502a

    Jul 23, 2008
    I'm excited about the opportunities of cloud based computing, and think its a perfect addition to the ipad device, since the ipad has such small storage space. I like your suggestions and definitely think that is the way Apple is going, especially given the fact they built that huge computer server complex.

    I think cloud based computing also plays in perfectly with Apple's vision of the ipad as an addition to your Mac, not a replacement for it. Since if your ipad and your Mac are both hooked up to the cloud, you can easily share all your data between the two devices. The iPad becomes an easy to use, light-weight, and convenient extension to your Mac.

    I definitely think I will buy a subscription to Mobileme when I get an ipad, just for the file storage and sharing aspect alone. I could then easily store all my Mac documents on Mobileme and easily access them on the ipad, and vice-versa. I could care less about another email address or a picture gallery.
  7. samcraig macrumors P6

    Jun 22, 2009
    It's also interesting to read what a consumer view on cloud computing "means" vs the IT industry. Very different...
  8. bossxii macrumors 68000

    Nov 9, 2008
    Kansas City
    I use Mobileme for my personal email and have for a year or so. The email, iCal, contacts and notes being sync'd between all my devices and available anywhere is nice. The video/photo is not all that great. We simply do not have access here in the US to the bandwidth to make "cloud computing" useful. It's at the point it serves individuals well as i never have to worry about losing all my contacts, email or appointments if my iPhone were to die, get lost and wiped or whatever, but it's simply to slow to deal with large files.

    I dont see Mobileme adding to the iPads usability anymore than it currently does for the iPhone.
  9. Night Spring macrumors G5

    Night Spring

    Jul 17, 2008
    Ok, you've got me curious. Could you perhaps elaborate on this a bit more?
  10. anthonymoody thread starter macrumors 68020

    Aug 8, 2002
    I'm in NYC and I hear you. Two things however...
    1) I believe the MTA announced agreements with both Verizon and ATT to light up the tunnels at some point not that long ago. Not clear when that'll happen, but it's not like they're not thinking about it.
    2) There'll always be at least some local storage on the device (obviously) so it's not like you'd be completely without 100% of your content.

    Well yeah, that was the point of my post.

    Last I checked, the fix still left evidence of the mobileme email address in the full header of the email. Though it's usually hidden, it's there for those who care to look. If true, that's not good enough for what I'm hoping for. Has this changed?

    BTW as far as making the device more useful... seriously - if ALL these changes were made you're saying you don't think the device would be more useful? Seems...disingenuous.

    Certainly from a consumer standpoint the IT industry definition, based more around CPU cycles in the cloud and hosted software, is sort of meaningless. But as a central media store, I'm all for it :)

    Well, no, not if left as is. But that's the point of my post...speculating on the kinds of changes that Apple could make in order to take the service to a whole new level. A level that would give the iPad that much more functionality.

    Let me say it another way - I think Apple absolutely positively will give the iPad all this functionality and more over time. My question is whether they bake that functionality into mobileme, or roll it out within individual (paid? free?) apps.

    Oh, and for those of you who simply replied "No" let me say thank you for adding so much value to the discussion.
  11. dave1812dave macrumors 6502a

    May 15, 2009

    no problem. any time. (besides, I know you like to take center stage)
  12. SteveSparks macrumors 6502a


    Jan 22, 2008
    St. Louis, MO.
    Nope. Its already there when you get the device..

    I packet of Awsome is included.
  13. anthonymoody thread starter macrumors 68020

    Aug 8, 2002
    I can always count on you Dave!

    SS: I'm with you actually :) I like to rip open the pack of Awesome straight away and down it straight, pixi stick style...
  14. dave1812dave macrumors 6502a

    May 15, 2009
    Darn tootin'! :) I'd hate to disappoint.
  15. samcraig macrumors P6

    Jun 22, 2009
  16. Night Spring macrumors G5

    Night Spring

    Jul 17, 2008
    Of course. But we were discussing what value/function cloud computing would add to the iPad, and my answer was, if you are for some reason cut off from the internet, the additional value/function is 0.

    But that said, I *am* looking forward to seeing Apple and other companies expand cloud services and add more enhancements. These things do enhance our computing experience overall, not just on the iPad. But right now, the bottleneck is network speed and availabilty. As another poster pointed out, right now, I doubt video streaming will be smooth enough or fast enough on a 3g connection. I wouldn't want to depend on a 3g connection to watch the latest episode of House, and have it cut out on me right as House is having his trademark "aha!" moment. :D

    Thanks for the link, off to read!
  17. anthonymoody thread starter macrumors 68020

    Aug 8, 2002
    The good news is that both of these get nothing but better over time. LTE/4G over the next say 2-8 years, with 5G/home-wifi speed equivalents in 7-15 years likely becoming both ubiquitous and cheap.
  18. samcraig macrumors P6

    Jun 22, 2009
    You know - there could be a totally new "magical" device by then ;)
  19. Night Spring macrumors G5

    Night Spring

    Jul 17, 2008
    The bad news is, that speed is still many years away... :D

    But yeah, the future of computing will be more and more mobile. And I do look forward to that. It's just that we aren't quite there yet.

    Of course! I'm counting on it!
  20. anthonymoody thread starter macrumors 68020

    Aug 8, 2002
    Noooooooooooooo!!!!!!! The iPad is the lastest bestest most magical unicorn ponies device evar!!
  21. mark34 macrumors 6502a

    May 18, 2006
    I use MobileMe for personal email, photos, videos, bookmarks, and idisk on my iphone and Exchange for my work email, calendar, and contacts...

    All work together beautifully. MobileMe has been pretty much flawless for how I use it. I don't use it as full cloud computing per se, but its there when i need it.

    The gallery works beautifully and the new Gallery app for the iphone is really nice. If you are a Mac user, I can't imagine an easier way to share photos and video from your laptop, desktop, or iphone. Should only be that much more useful on the iPad.
  22. t0mat0 macrumors 603


    Aug 29, 2006
    You'd like
    email - Apple to push another email service? Unlikely.
    Pictures - Cloud storage. Which is kind of what the mobilme galleries are nearly already.
    Music/Video - Have a think what Apple wants to do with a $2 billion data centre that's coming online this year.
    iDisk - Will likely link better. And this goes for the iPhone too.

    MobileMe will see some changes.

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