Is Obama Choosing Warren?

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  1. Southern Dad macrumors 65816

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    The New York Post this weekend ran a front page story that the President is promising to support Elizabeth Warren if she runs against Hillary Clinton in the Democrat Primary. The story is written by Edward Klein, who is a very respected journalist.

    Warren is 65-years-old. 1st Term Senator for Massachusetts. This could get interesting.
     
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    Just a note...many might argue that The New York Post is less than a totally reliable source of information.

    As for Klein. the below might be of some interest....

    (Emphasis added)

    Source
     
  3. Southern Dad thread starter macrumors 65816

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    Okay, so we don't like the source but what about the information reported? What IF President Obama was to support Elizabeth Warren over Hillary Clinton? After all, I think we all agree that the Clintons and Obamas are not exactly best friends. Bill did probably clinch the election.
     
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    Edward Klein and respected journalist in the same sentence. LOLOLOLOLOL. The NY Post was like icing on the cake.
     
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    I have a feeling Obama will publicly endorse whoever wins the 2016 primary. And there are many many reasons why he won't publicly endorse or support anyone before the primary - not the least of which being Biden is expected to run for President.

    I feel like the Obamas and Clintons have long since buried the hatchet.

    But the author of the opinion piece is somewhat discredited by referring to the "Democrat Party" and his hyperbolic use of "European-style democratic-socialist state" to describe Obama's vision for the country.
     
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    The Obama's and Clinton's are not fond of each other.

    The president might be more engaged with Warren, but will tow the party line ultimately.
     
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    The president will pick another corporatist like him, not Warren (unless she trounces the rest of the competition in the primary, but I doubt it).
     
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    I agree that Barack Obama will support whomever wins the primary but getting the big question is who will he give his nod to in the primary. Will he endorse his former Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton or will he look elsewhere?
     
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    Does it matter? Really.

    I don't quite think Obama is at or will reach George W levels by the time his presidency is over, but will his support mean much or help more than it could hurt? I could see him having a very quiet and small role in the next election.
     
  10. Technarchy macrumors 604

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    Will probably be lower than Bush or equal when it is all over.

    [​IMG]
     
  11. impulse462 macrumors 68000

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    Can someone explain why the Clintons and Obamas are not fond of each other?
     
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    [​IMG]
     
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    Warren seems like a good choice for the left, more down to earth candidate that people can relate to and seems pretty solid on following the liberal ideals.

    Also less baggage than Hillary would bring.
     
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    This doesn't answer my question. Are you saying because Obama won in an election that Hilary lost in, they would necessarily not like him?
     
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    The primaries were VERY dirty. There was a lot of mud slinging between the two at that time and rumor has it that they still haven't let it go. I voted for Hillary. Still wish she had won.
     
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    Honestly, I don't think he will officially or unofficially endorse or support anyone in the primary.

    Did Bush endorse McCain in the 2008 primary? (I really don't remember). Do presidents often endorse a potential or favorite successor?
     
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    I've never head of any president supporting anyone in the primary. They just support the nominee. It would look pretty silly for a president to throw support behind someone in the primary then that candidate does not get the nominee.
     
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    Well, yes.

    They were rather vicious towards each other during the election, too, which didn't help.
     
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    Yes, Bush did endorse McCain. There was an interview or may have been a PDB in which he came out and said that it will be John that wins the election.

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    Since when do tabloids count as legitimate sources?

    That said, Warren would be a better choice than Clinton. Less bought and paid for by big business. But she has only been a Senator for 2 years.

    Rasmussen has Obama at 46% today. Also, Bush hit a low of 25% in 2008. Obama's still got a pretty good margin to go to before he hits that territory.
    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/pub...a_administration/obama_approval_index_history
     
  21. Southern Dad thread starter macrumors 65816

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    Gerald Ford Lost in his reelection

    Jimmy Carter Lost in his reelection

    Ronald Reagan endorsed George H W Bush on 5/12/1988.

    George H W Bush lost in his reelection

    Bill Clinton endorsed Al Gore on 12/12/1999.

    George W Bush endorsed John McCain on 03/05/2008

    So, it isn't that unusual for a sitting two term President to endorse prior to the primary. Of the three listed only one went on to win. However, all three did get their party's nomination.

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    Who else had only been a Senator for 2 years?
     
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    Nixon would be the closest to 2 years I believe in recent history.

    If you want to go way back, James Buchanan. And Andrew Jackson did two 2-year senate terms over 20 years apart.
     
  24. Southern Dad thread starter macrumors 65816

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    President Obama served less than 3 years as a US Senator. Actually Senator Warren would serve longer than Senator Obama, if elected.

    In office
    January 4, 2005 – November 16, 2008
     
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    Check your math.
     

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