Carrier Is the AT&T 5S Unlocked? It's the same model as Verizon

Discussion in 'iPhone' started by Jigga, Sep 16, 2013.

  1. Jigga macrumors 6502

    Joined:
    Jun 11, 2009
    #1
    Being that the AT&T and Verizon 5s is the same model, will the AT&T model be unlocked to use on Verizon?

    Someone may be willing to give me their AT&T upgrade to use on Verizon.
     
  2. Diseal3 macrumors 65816

    Joined:
    Jun 29, 2008
    #2
    Verizon for use on att will work. Att for use on Verizon will not.
     
  3. Jigga thread starter macrumors 6502

    Joined:
    Jun 11, 2009
    #3
    Are you sure?
     
  4. Applejuiced macrumors Westmere

    Applejuiced

    Joined:
    Apr 16, 2008
    Location:
    At the iPhone hacks section.
    #4
    Yes.
    Verizon will not activate another carriers iPhone on their network.
     
  5. Stuke00 macrumors 68000

    Joined:
    Oct 11, 2011
    Location:
    Collinsville,IL
    #5
    They should if AT&T unlocks it.
     
  6. Applejuiced macrumors Westmere

    Applejuiced

    Joined:
    Apr 16, 2008
    Location:
    At the iPhone hacks section.
    #6
    They should but they do not.
    Good luck trying to convince them though to add the esn to their database and then activate it on their network.
    Hope they listen to you and change their policy.
    Sprint is the same exact way too.
     
  7. Diseal3 macrumors 65816

    Joined:
    Jun 29, 2008
    #7
    Expanding on what Applejuiced has already said, It will not work on Verizon's voice side. Although a swap of an LTE sim will act as a usim for the CDMA side of things, the phone's ESN/IMEI number must be in Verizon's system to work.

    Interesting example is the Nexus 7. The cellular model will work with Verizon and ATT. You will get ATT LTE and HSPA+ fallback. On Verizon you will get LTE but NO 3G EVDO REv. A fallback.
     
  8. iSaxon macrumors 6502a

    iSaxon

    Joined:
    Jun 19, 2010
    Location:
    Pittsburgh, PA
    #8
    AT&T will unlock up to 5 devices on your account per year. I just unlocked my iPhone 5 by sending them an e-mail, and it was unlocked within 24 hours.

    Edit:
    Oh wait, you're saying Verizon won't activate an AT&T unlocked iPhone onto their network?
     
  9. Applejuiced macrumors Westmere

    Applejuiced

    Joined:
    Apr 16, 2008
    Location:
    At the iPhone hacks section.
    #9
    Yep, pretty much what diesel said above.
    The one that blocks it is verizon and sprint pretty much has the same policy.
     
  10. aristobrat macrumors G4

    Joined:
    Oct 14, 2005
    #10
    Right. On Verizon and Sprint, voice and SMS still use CDMA.

    Verizon and Sprint both have "policies" where they will not activate another carrier's device on their CDMA network.

    The opposite is not true. AT&T will allow any carrier's device on their GSM/LTE networks.
     
  11. Jigga thread starter macrumors 6502

    Joined:
    Jun 11, 2009
  12. cnotes2019 Suspended

    Joined:
    Aug 17, 2013
    #12
    I'm wondering this as well


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 2
     
  13. apple_iBoy macrumors 6502a

    Joined:
    Oct 28, 2003
    Location:
    Philadelphia, PA
    #13
    I have an unlocked iPhone 4 but had to wait until the 2 year contract was done. I use it with foreign SIM card when I travel overseas.

    Are you saying that you were able to unlock your iPhone 5 already. Was it not on a contract?
     
  14. iSaxon macrumors 6502a

    iSaxon

    Joined:
    Jun 19, 2010
    Location:
    Pittsburgh, PA
    #14
    It was on contract... As long as your account is in good standing and you make all of your payments on time they will unlock it
     
  15. Satnam1989, Sep 21, 2013
    Last edited: Sep 21, 2013

    Satnam1989 macrumors 65816

    Joined:
    Nov 16, 2011
    Location:
    Illinois
    #15
    The issue isn't only that they will not activate it....the T-Mobile and AT&T 5S lack CDMA support (CDMA = Permanently Disabled), if u guys think your right then please flash a AT&T 5C or 5S onto Cricket or another CDMA carrier....it should work right? but it wont because the "GSM" model lacks CDMA, Only Verizon (Factory Unlocked GSM) and Sprint (Locked GSM Portion & Can get Unlocked for International Use).

    The reason Verizon LTE SIM works on AT&T/T-Mobile/GSM 5S is because it supports Verizon's LTE band (LTE is like GSM/3G/4G - more convenient as you can simply swap SIM's), but lack of CDMA makes doing such things pointless....

    Much like the A1429 iPhone 5....Model # was one but there were 2 devices...one with and one without CDMA enabled.

    Why apple does this? I have no idea

    Verizon & Sprint like one of the members said above, use CDMA for Voice & Text etc, and this is probably the reason why they don't want people trying to add devices that aren't sold by them as it would be a headache for their customer service reps to explain to people continuously the lack of CDMA tech/incompatibility of the device with their network(as we see it happening here on the forum...people asking same questions over and over).....with AT&T and T-Mobile, a device from any network will work on something be it 2G/EDGE, 3G, 4G, LTE etc
     
  16. Col Ronson macrumors 6502a

    Joined:
    Aug 7, 2008
    #16
    they should but they dont. this has been covered 100 times. Verizon will only activate phones on their network that were sold specifically for their network, unlocked or not. CDMA phones require the IMEI to be preregistered with the network, and Verizon isn't going to have any ATT IMEIs in their database nor would they care to add any.

    Verizon iPhone 5s: unlocked SIM will work on any GSM carrier - will not work on sprint
    Sprint 5s: locked to sprint only
    TMobile 5S: GSM unlocked (if bought from apple store - paid full price)
    ATT 5S: locked to ATT. Will become GSM unlocked if you buy at full price, do not tie it to an account, and restore it on iTunes.
     
  17. Truefan31 macrumors 68040

    Truefan31

    Joined:
    Aug 25, 2012
    #17
    So if I wanted an unlocked 5s, the verizon one would be the best because it'll use all the bands on verizon, AT&T, and tmobile?
     
  18. Applejuiced macrumors Westmere

    Applejuiced

    Joined:
    Apr 16, 2008
    Location:
    At the iPhone hacks section.
    #18
    Very well said and explained.
    Even if they would allow it to activate still wouldn't work.
     
  19. Jumpie macrumors 6502a

    Jumpie

    Joined:
    Jul 7, 2008
    Location:
    Atlanta
    #19
    Actually, I have the VZW i5s and yes I can use my TMo SIM and get LTE data. So yes the VZW is unlocked.
     
  20. cnotes2019 Suspended

    Joined:
    Aug 17, 2013
    #20
    They are talking about using a tmobile or AT&T iPhone on Verizon.


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 2
     
  21. Jumpie macrumors 6502a

    Jumpie

    Joined:
    Jul 7, 2008
    Location:
    Atlanta
    #21
    Then Applejuiced may have misspoken. He said "yes, VZW will not unlock for use on another carrier." If I'm wrong, my bad.
     
  22. cnotes2019 Suspended

    Joined:
    Aug 17, 2013
    #22
    He/she didn't misspoke. He/she is saying that Verizon (Verizon sim) won't allow for their service to be used on another carriers iphone ie AT&T and mobile iPhone 5s
     
  23. Jigga thread starter macrumors 6502

    Joined:
    Jun 11, 2009
    #23
    Right.
    I want to use an AT&T 5S on Verizon.
     
  24. Mlrollin91 macrumors G4

    Mlrollin91

    Joined:
    Nov 20, 2008
    Location:
    Ventura County
    #24
    And you can't.
     
  25. cnotes2019 Suspended

    Joined:
    Aug 17, 2013
    #25
    We know.


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 2
     

Share This Page