Often when a church splits with a known entity like the Southern Baptists, Church of Christ, Presbyterians, Methodists, Catholics, Episcopalians, or Orthodox, they may or may not have the same religion. ECO appears to be a benign offshoot of the well-known Presbyterians but I am not so sure. It has cultish megachurch tendencies from what I have seen. A famous example of a cult offshoot of traditional religion is Jim Jones who had a church near me. He was accepted by a lot of powerful people (S.F. Mayor Willie Brown, First Lady Rosalynn Carter, and Governor and Oakland Mayor Jerry Brown) before his real nature was uncovered. But part of what a lot of big name church spinoffs have in common with Jones is that the pay of a business driven, mind bending cult has a much better set of perks (millions in pay, mansions, etc) than pastoring a proper church. I have no answer yet as to if the new ECO are a religion (with focus on faith and helping people) or a cult (bordering on being a very successful business like People's Temple or similar). One parishoner complained that guys like this made hundreds of thousands. While it may not be Joel Olsteen and his 10 million dollar mansion, something stinks to high heaven here. I always thought a part of the faith was a vow of poverty (or at least very low comparative pay) to clergy who often have advanced degrees. I know six to eight years of a private theological college can't be easy to pay off, but what's with these rock star pastors? If hundreds of years of church history didn't make such a big deal about individual pastors with a call not to receive riches like politicians, business owners, or some others, I wouldn't have a problem. We all know a chef who started a restaurant and then a few others and if things went well, he/she became a millionaire. Same with contractors, dentists, accountants, and many other fields. But religion was never designed with this same profit motive in mind (in its policy). Yes, there were rich and powerful Popes and a few very well off Protestant Reformists, but that was not the main focus. It's not like mommy told you to become a minister so you can be rich. LOL. Any experiences good or bad?