Is there a danager of the iPad allowing Apple to spy on our web usage?

Discussion in 'iPad' started by msmth928, May 28, 2010.

  1. msmth928 macrumors regular

    Jun 3, 2009
    Being closed source, it's not like you can load little snitch on there!

    So is there a possibility that Apple will be snooping on our web usage? More importantly is there a way for us to test whether they are or not?

    I don't want to turn this into a are they/aren't they debate - I just want to know whether it's possible they can spy on our usage of the internet or not, and if there's anyway for us to know if that's happening, if they can and we can't detect it - that's a good enough reason for me not to get one.
  2. Pushkar macrumors 6502a

    Jun 9, 2009
    SW London, UK
    I'd worry more about Google rather than Apple if you are going to snoop.
  3. msmth928 thread starter macrumors regular

    Jun 3, 2009
    Android is open source!! Let's not get tribal please. :rolleyes:
  4. ziggyonice macrumors 68020


    Mar 12, 2006
    Rural America
  5. msmth928 thread starter macrumors regular

    Jun 3, 2009
    How did you arrive at that conclusion? Is it just your opinion or based on actual knowledge about how these devices work?

    (Trying to get facts here not opinion tbh.)
  6. ziggyonice macrumors 68020


    Mar 12, 2006
    Rural America
    Based on this.

    You could same thing about any company — is the cable company spying on what I'm watching? Is my phone provider listening in on my conversations? No, be realistic. Apple doesn't care about your web usage, and if they had some way to check (which they don't) they'd be in big legal trouble.
  7. Locker macrumors 6502

    Aug 22, 2007
    Staffordshire, UK
    I'm pretty sure these are the answers:

    Is it possible for them to do it? Yes
    Could you detect it if they did do it? Not an average user, but yes
    Will they actually be doing it? No
  8. sandyjmacdonald macrumors 6502

    Jun 12, 2009
    I'm more worried by them snooping through that tiny hidden webcam at the top of the screen. You must have seen it ;)
  9. jb1280 macrumors 6502a

    Jan 13, 2009
    I'm sorry, this is a bit ridiculous and has nothing to do with the closed and/or closed nature of platforms. Of course it is possible. Just as it is possible for Google to monitor your browsing habits, or your phone company to monitor your telephony usage, or the creepy guy living across the street from monitoring when you go to work in the morning.

    You have two choices. First, you can read company's privacy policies and accept it as truth. Second, you can unplug from modern society and move to a cave somewhere.
  10. Gymgenius Suspended

    Jan 29, 2010
    fantastic! :p
  11. Chupa Chupa macrumors G5

    Chupa Chupa

    Jul 16, 2002
    +1. Also, privacy-wise, one (extra?) bonus to not having to be concerned about hidden Flash cookies that do not get removed when you flush out your "regular" cookies.
  12. Spudracer macrumors 6502

    Oct 4, 2009
    ziggyonice is an Apple plant on this forum. Don't trust him. They are spying on us. Apple is a shell company fronting for the NSA. Log off now! Wipe down your keyboard. Talk to no one. Never bring this up again.
  13. steviem macrumors 68020


    May 26, 2006
    New York, Baby!
    Let's get this straight.

    There are portions of Android which are Open Source. This is why Cyanogen was given a cease and desist on cyanogenmod. When he removed the closed source portions it was all good.

    Chromium is open source and has aspects of this kind of tracking built in, which is why there's a fork of chromium about called steel or iron.

    Chrome is the Google branded version of Chromium.

    Google have loads on us.

    It's just about trust. I trust apple and after the whole buzz thing, I trust Google less than I trust Apple.
  14. Spudracer macrumors 6502

    Oct 4, 2009
    On a more serious note. Google absolutely does monitor traffic on the web. It's part of their business model that allows them to deliver such great search performance. Could they focus their technology on individuals? I'm sure they could. Could they commercialize that information? Well, they sort of do already in a general sense. But, I think Google realizes they are verrrrry vulnerable to charges of abuse. Hence their vaunted ethics are partially due to the common decency of their leadership (benefit of the doubt) and partially due to the fact that they could be put out of business by the public and government if they violate the public trust.
  15. gtvyt macrumors member

    Jan 18, 2010
    I would be more worried about of your ISP, Cell company and the websites you surf. In some areas of the world the iPhone was not aloud for officials with sensitive information access because you can not turned it off completely when on a meeting (taking out the battery).
    Not sure what the situation now but at the time it did make a lot of noise in the inner circle.
  16. darngooddesign macrumors G3

    Jul 4, 2007
    Atlanta, GA
    The government and ATT are already doing it. Why are you worried about Apple?
  17. wombat888 macrumors 6502a

    May 10, 2008
    Why are you worried about anybody doing this? If you're not plotting bomb attacks on civilians or trading child porn, the odds of a government official showing up at your door are pretty much zero. And what would Apple do to you in response to any Web browsing or emailing you might do? If you spend too much time on, Steve will send you nasty emails?

    Strangers care way less about your personal life than you might assume.
  18. mcdj macrumors G3


    Jul 10, 2007
    Even if they are spying on us, who cares? Unless you're a terrorist, what "danager" are you actually concerned with? If someone is watching, they're doing it for broad demographic marketing reasons, not to find out what kind of weird porn you're into.

    Don't flatter yourself by thinking a giant corporation gives a rat's ass what websites you personally visit.

    EDIT - wombat beat me to it.
  19. Dr Kevorkian94 macrumors 68020

    Jun 9, 2009
    SI, NY
    Wow that's highly illegal but no there is no possible way if a "snooper" software was in the os or something like that all our jail-breaky hack friends would of found it. But I think when signing up to AT&T there alowd to look at it.

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