Is there anything that Windows has that OSX doesn't?

vniow

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I was asked this question a couple days ago and was basically stumped.

Is there a feature or an option or something else in Windows that's not, but should or could be, in OSX?

The only thing I can think of is that XP has this eye-candy killer feature that increases the speed and performance of it in case it's needed. It helps a bunch in VPC, just do a quick search. When you turn on that feature it's ugly as hell, but it's definately faster.
Aqua can be slow at times especially if you're on an older computer so being able to adjust some if not all of the eye candy would help us poor low-end users a lot.

Are there any other features that I'm missing or is OSX better in every possible way?
 

cr2sh

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Re: Is there anything that Windows has that OSX doesn't?

Originally posted by edvniow

Aqua can be slow at times especially if you're on an older computer so being able to adjust some if not all of the eye candy would help us poor low-end users a lot.
It'd be great if this function was self-calibrating though... It recognizes video memory, total ram, and cpu speed and then calculates an optimal display setting.

I use ther charactermap in wndows a lot, and I'm sure I could pull down a third party though. Also, Right click access to Display features.. other than that... dunno.

What is this face suppossed to mean? :eek: blow me?
 

Tommy!

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can't windows log out a user while keeping their application open? so when someone else logs in, the other application is running in the background invisibly? i want a feature like that in osx really bad.
 

Gaz

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- Try highlighting a few files and just renaming one of them

- The catagorising of files and folderes is pretty smart

- Good preview of all files in a folder

- .NET but that's not really for your avg customer, plus I have a very strong feeling this will be appearing on OS X in the very near future - they recently ported all CLI which is a good start

- Good developer tools. OS X is improving but if you want to get in to some real development OS X is still lagging. Please note the developer tools are a little limited. Add intellisense and they would be vastly improved.

- Better file sharing apps

- IMO better grouping of open documents and I prefer the task switching

- Vastly improved user switching but if the rumors that were circulating recently come true, then the Mac will rule (even more so)

- ClearType fonts, I remember reading somewhere this was one of the best features of XP and was better than the AA on OS X. The result being readability of text is vastly improved and can help people read documents much more quickly.

That's probably about it and yes I do realise you can can download extras to do some of the stuff but you shouldn't need to that.
 

kiwi_the_iwik

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Well, for starters...

*Kiddie-style graphical interface

*No imagination - it plagiarised from OSX in the first place (since when has MS ever had an original idea come forth from their brains that they didn't have to get from a hostile takeover of a smaller competitor?)

*A hefty price tag

*US Government backing - via the newly-established "Department of Homeland Security" - to give them the ability to spy on your computer, unknowingly to the user, over the internet - as a so-called deterrent to terrorism.

...to name a few. Any others?

Bueller? Bueller? Anyone?

;)
 

cubist

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Sure, it costs more than Jaguar.

Even the XP Home, with its Machiavellian "product activation" feature, costs more than Jaguar.

I think Windows' network control panel has a little more flexibility than the corresponding system configuration panels in Mac OS X.

I can't get the PPTP feature in Mac OS X to work. I think my office has selected some optional encryption authentication feature.

Windows includes drivers for floppy drives.

Windows includes support for analog joysticks, whereas the Mac has traditionally had keypads with kludgy game-specific mapping to keyclicks. That's kind of weird, because the Apple II had nice analog joysticks that IBM copied for the PC.

Some folks mention that Windows supports "Dolby 5+1 surround sound". I don't know what that is.

Now do you want a list of what Mac OS X has that Windows doesn't? That'll be a much longer list!
 

rainman::|:|

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well jaguar lacks the feature of asking you every time you click something in IE if you really want to [enter a secure site][leave a secure site][submit a form on an insecure site] despite telling it that you DONT want to see that message again, it just can't save your preference to your network volume...

blah. one of my pet peeves, if you can't tell.

it also has a handy method of making sure you REALLY want to shut down, by making you tell it up to 3 times (and god forbid you try shutting it down with network apps open)... jaguar, by comparison, simply shuts down, with NO reguard to personal indecisiveness...

i kind of like the fact that almost every contextual menu in Windows has an option for "set as wallpaper"... if i changed my background image often, it'd be handy...

:)
pnw
 

vniow

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Originally posted by cr2sh
a current windows user can upgrade to XP home for $99
a current osX user can upgrade to Jag for $129

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/home/howtobuy/pricing.asp

http://www.apple.com/macosx/



What you're saying is just wrong.

The price you're quoting for an upgrade to Home is just that. An upgrade.
You must have a previous copy of Windows (which would cost another ~$99) in order for it to work.
The full price for XP Home is $199 which is also the same price as an upgrade to XP Pro.

10.2's $129 beats them all for value.
 

SilvorX

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hmm on winblowz media player, it sends data from your comp to microsoft...probably the first phase of palladium :p jk
ie is fully integrated on winblowz...personally im a mozilla/phoenix fan so that pisses me off when i DID use windows...
user-unfriendly setup (for installing win xp/reinstalling xp)
ugly user interface
thats what windows has that mac doesnt...
 

backspinner

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On windows you have good programmers text editors with tabs (ie Ultraedit).

And I like the two pane idea of the file explorer. Therefore the preview of a folder is also nicer/easier.

On Windows you have a zillion half-working pet project programs, on the mac you only have 1% of that number of decent applications.
On windows you have driver problems, on the mac you have drivers or you don't have them (well, most of the time).
On windows you have the latest hardware gadgets (but no applications to take advantage of it).
 

BenderBot1138

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I think you said "that should be in OSX" right... hmmm the only thing I can think of is Window's users' attention/focus.

kiwi_the_iwik... that "kiddie style graphics" comment was HILARIOUS

:cool:
 

cr2sh

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Originally posted by edvniow
The price you're quoting for an upgrade to Home is just that. An upgrade.
You must have a previous copy of Windows (which would cost another ~$99) in order for it to work.
The full price for XP Home is $199 which is also the same price as an upgrade to XP Pro.

10.2's $129 beats them all for value.
The upgrade to XP costs $99, the upgrade to Jag costs $129.

To say it has 'a hefty price tag' means that the Jag is even more hefty.
I agree that Jag is the better value, I agree that XP is complete garbage.. and if you didn't already have an OS (respectively) Jag is cheaper, but I think that is a very rare scenario.
 

Raiden

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Yeah, I do like the windows explorer program thing that my windows 98 has. I know apple has the search thing built into the finder, but a whole mac explorer program would be great.

Scanning my brain, there really isnt anything that 98 has that OSXJ doesnt.
 

pimentoLoaf

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Windozzzzzzzz XP supports:

  • Flight Simulator Pro
  • Combat Flight Simulator 3
  • InterActual Player
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    The latter toy allows linking from DVD's to the Internet.
 

JupiterZen

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Re: Is there anything that Windows has that OSX doesn't?

Originally posted by edvniow
Is there a feature or an option or something else in Windows that's not, but should or could be, in OSX?

Are there any other features that I'm missing or is OSX better in every possible way?
If you want to make a disk mirror set in OS X you MUST format both drives to make the mirror set.

If you want to create a mirror set in Windows 2000/XP you can take any existing volume and let it be mirrored on another volume without the reformat. So you can easily mirror existing data.

...

Oh, and a Novell Groupwise Client would be nice ;-) But that is more something Novell is to blame for. And I must say the mail.app in Jaguar does a nice job IMAPping to a Groupwise Server. And you can always have WebAccess.
 

Chaszmyr

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For those of you who do digital photography, WindowsXP has the ability to view EXIF info from within the OS, whereas on a mac you need to do it with Photoshop. Windows also has a built-in netmeeting. Other than that I can't think of anything Windows has that OSX doesnt.... OSX sure has a lot that WinXP doesnt though.
 

Nipsy

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To address a few points:

OSX has as many developer tools than Windows has (thanks fink), however many of them exist only on the command line (not really a problem for developers). However, certain things will never exist for either platform.

Windows has a broader selection of IDEs. However, the Mac is emerging as a developer friendly platform FAST.

Windows will always have more game titles than Mac, primarily because of the audience.

There are numerous VERY useful utils for Windows only, however, it is becoming increasingly easy to WRITE these as apps in OSX.

Windows has more in the way of graphical OS extensibility, if that's your thing.

MacOSX still struggles with some VPNs, some codecs, some poorly coded sites which rely heavily on ActiveX (scary), share mounting ease (smb remounts, etc.).

Windows struggles with privacy, security, ease of use, and consistency.

OSX is a better, but slightly more limiting experience. Windows is a more common, but less pleasant interface.
 

kylos

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On Windows you have a zillion half-working pet project programs, on the mac you only have 1% of that number of decent applications.
Hmm... Let's see, 1% of a zillion... that's a whole lot more decent apps than I'll ever need or use.:)
 

pantagruel

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um no one has mentioned the blue-screen of death.

and I quote"who cares if there are a thousand programs for the pc when the five you want most are available only for the mac"