Is there more to Trump's tirade about Amazon?

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  2. DearthnVader macrumors 6502a

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    Only worth an estimated $3.1 billion, Trump's practically in the poor house.:p
     
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    Not sure I buy that # anyway. But whatever. Unimportant. However his hate for The Washington Post is strong. And I suspect if he was told that he lost any money due to retail, it's another fuel to the fire to go after Amazon. Because he's a petulant child.
     
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    This is what happens when someone with obvious conflict of interest gets into a position of relevance.

    US’s political and democratic system is dysfunctional! Objectively, it has been for a long time now but largely hidden.
     
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    Maybe but usually the simplest answer is correct. Bezos owns the Washington post and Trump hates how the Post covers him.
     
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    So it was an immature president who likes to get personal that was voted in.
     
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    Where have you been?
     
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    I wish he were only a petulant child. He acts far too much and far too often like the erratic Kaiser Wilhelm II in the run-up to World War I, whom Thomas Sanderson, the then undersecretary in the British Foreign Office, once characterized as “running about with a lucifer match [the strike-anywhere kind] and scratching it against powder barrels."

    The President of the USA is way off base singling out an individual company for reasons so transparently personal, and threatening retaliation dressed up as government business. But then that's Trump. He doesn't care about appropriate behavior in his high office. Trump just says and does (or tries to do) whatever comes to his mind, in the absence of effective minders. Is John Kelly on vacation or just on the skids to the exit door?!
     
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    Journalists were targetted under Obama admin:

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.th...-press-freedom-strong-media-stop-donald-trump
     
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    "Journalists" are not a corporation. Trump's blustering about bringing Amazon's business methods to heel as he sees fit.

    Journalists or rather their reporting efforts are resisted to some extent by every administration. No government ends up wanting the level of transparency journalists seek to present, even if a government's leaders might claim they favor a free press in the interests of democracy yada yada. Lip service is generally followed by "This Is Classified."

    What Trump is doing is unconscionable. Whether it's that he loathes the coverage of the Washington Post or resents losing ground in the "who's the richest of them all" game or is angry that his own businesses (like other businesses) have lost ground to online traders including (but not limited to) Amazon, he has used the bully pulpit of the Presidency to single out a corporation for what is clearly personalized wrath.

    If what he is talking about involves an idea for either anti-trust legislation tweaks or investigation of improper business-to-business deals, what Trump has done by tweeting and ranting about Amazon is not the way to go about it. I'm sure some Republicans around DC and even some of his buddies may have pointed this out to him by now.

    Once again, the lack of effective minders is marring his Presidency. The GOP must rue the day they ever thought they could manage this guy. He's perennially out of control, a loose cannon atop a ship of state increasingly at risk of being run aground by incompetent administrators.
     
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    Which is almost certainly wildly inflated.

    Link
     
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    As @LizKat noted - the President has absolutely zero business commenting
    about specific business's. Likewise Jeff Bezos is more powerful than
    Orange Julius could ever hope to be. Maybe through the Post or through
    the cloud services his team has found out stuff to hurt Orange Julias -
    and the President knows this and is acting out of fear?
     
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    We’ve known that’s what he was since before day 1 of his campaign.
     
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    Sometimes his pitchforking skills aren't worth a dime though. Ask Ryan and McConnell. I mean would you stand next to him pitching hay? Not me.
     
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    I’m honestly not sure what’s more incredible. The fact that the president is going after Amazon for doing nothing more than striking an advantageous deal with the USPS, or the fact that the purportedly “pro-business” GOP is perfectly fine with him trying to pick winners and losers in the market place when it suits him.
     
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    I don't know the details of the deal Amazon has with the USPS, but it was freely entered into by both sides and from what I've heard, parcel delivery is a growth area for USPS. Trump is making it sound like Amazon is stealing from U.S. citizens every time a package is delivered. He's just lying and he knows it, or he's too lazy and ignorant to actually look at the details of the Amazon/USPS deal so he simply spouts nonsense instead. Of course, the fact that Jeff Bezos owns the Washington Post is probably the main impetus for Trump here. Sounds like Trump is trying to act like his pal/boss Putin by attacking perceived political opponents this way.
     
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    He has no knowledge of the USPS or Amazon. The USPS is a money-making corporation. They were crippled under Bush/conservative congress by pre-funding pensions. The lie that less mail cripples them is not true. The USPS handles UPS and FedEX mail too.

    I worked for the post office. Their business is down. They are still solvent.

    Trump is being his usual moronic self. "We need to shutter McDonalds... they are destroying cattle farmers."

    No, I would think BEEF would help a BURGER CHAIN. This is Trump logic. The USPS was a hybrid federal/independent agency until the Bush admin decided they needed money NOW. So they demanded the USPS fund their employee pensions NOW, and pay it to THEM. Amazon pays their bills, and also employs Americans. Where are his hat manufactureres?
     
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    It still doesn't change the fact that Trump's vendetta is personal. He's simply stirring up populist sentiment in order to hide this fact.

    The USPS funds its operations out of revenue as it is required to by law. Congress doesn't write the USPS a check. The USPS does get certain benefits such as an exemption from state property tax, tolls, etc. and a monopoly on mailboxes. The value of these benefits is a cost to the taxpayer but it's not the same as Congress writing a check to the DOE or DOD. The USPS is prohibited from making money-losing deals but Congress sets limit on how much profit the USPS can make as it does for any other regulated monopoly.

    The USPS could charge more but there are limits that Congress sets on how much profit a monopoly can make. The USPS certain makes a profit as it is required to by law. Trump is playing with the wording to stir up populist sentiment. When people hear the word "subsidized", they think someone is eating losses in order to keep costs down. Trump is trying to give people the impression that they are eating the losses that the USPS is incurring on shipping packages for Amazon when in fact that is completely false as the USPS has to make a profit.
     
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    To help put things in a little perspective...

    https://www.theroot.com/trumps-advisors-tried-to-teach-him-how-the-post-office-1825054784

     
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    Just how is Trump’s conflict of interest in his business ownership handled during his presidency? In some jurisdictions, politicians had to sell or part their ownership in companies, or be removed from the board. This is just too ridiculous a situation to ignore as he uses his high office to punish others in the business sector.
     
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    Trump had to be reminded by his babysitters that USPS isn't taxpayer-funded. But nevertheless Baby Trump continued his tantrum as if nothing had happened.
     
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    It’s what he does best. I’m quite surprised though, Amazon using the USPS to deliver mail. What’s next? Bezos shopping at a grocery store? We really need to clamp down on these jokers.
     

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