Is this email from PayPal a fraud?

devilot

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I just got this in my email... however it was sort of um, back dated? I don't know-- it just showed up as 'new' and unread although I have checked my email before and after this supposed email turned up. I'll attach a screen shot. I'm scared to click on the link in the email but here it is (I ctrl-clicked to copy the link): link from email
 

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stoid

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Log in to your PayPal account, and see if there is any notification there. From your PayPal account, see if there is a contact tech support link or something.

I'd be leery of E-mails like the one you got. If you do click the link, look for the lock in the upper right corner of the Safari browser window to let you know that you've connected securely to PayPal.
 

Doctor Q

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You've got phish!

It's a fraud and you are wise not to provide these identity thieves with any information about you or your Paypal account.

If you even have a Paypal account. If I turn off my spam filter, I get these notices for banks I've never even heard of and plenty I've heard of but don't do business with.
 

CanadaRAM

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devilot76 said:
I just got this in my email... however it was sort of um, back dated? I don't know-- it just showed up as 'new' and unread although I have checked my email before and after this supposed email turned up. I'll attach a screen shot. I'm scared to click on the link in the email but here it is (I ctrl-clicked to copy the link):
This is a fraud

Do not go there.

Paypal will never email to you with your generic address, they will always address you by the name you signed up as. They will also not ask you to update information by following a emaill link - they will tell you to manually log into your Paypal account at the secure address https://www.paypal.com and then make your updates AFTER you have logged in.

Forward this to email to spoof@paypal.com and they will confirm.
 

Doctor Q

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It used to be easier to recognize phishing by the poor English grammar and the fact that the images or links went to IP addresses, overseas domains, or other obviously-not-the-real-organization locations. Now they are more polished and sneakier, with words, graphics, and URLs that look believable, but just as phoney.
 

CanadaRAM

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stoid said:
If you do click the link, look for the lock in the upper right corner of the Safari browser window to let you know that you've connected securely to PayPal.
Oh no Oh no. The lock only tells you you are connected to "a" secure server, not that you are at the server you think you are at :eek:

The scammers can also obscure the link address so that you are at some other site that looks in your address bar very similar to paypal.com.
 

devilot

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You guys are awesome!

Thanks for the quick replies and advice... I'm going to do as advised, sign on through www.Paypal.com and then if it is bogus, forward it as the website suggests.

Thanks guys!

:edit: Signed on... saw nothing strange on my usual 'front page' no mention of any changes to my account so I have forwarded the email.

Once again, thanks everybody! Whew. :eek:
 

Lacero

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Too bad the laws aren't aggressive enough to go after the phishers in this country or a foreign one.

If I was dictator, I would call for removal of their balls. That would cut phishing down to zero. :D
 
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Lau

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Phew indeed! Looks very suspicious. I'd also be very surprised if Paypal would threaten to suspend your account so readily. It's scary how official it looks though, as you can see how people get duped when it looks so realistic.

Glad you were sensible enough to come on here and check.
 

CanadaRAM

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Lacero said:
Too bad the laws aren't aggressive enough to go after the phishers in this country or a foreign one.

If I was dictator, I would call for removal of their balls. That would cut phishing down to zero. :D
Well, I dunno. The recidivism might be pretty high.

I mean, what else is there left to do but to play around on your computer, if you ain't got no balls?

It would cut second generation phishers down to near zero, however...
 

stonyc

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CanadaRAM said:
Well, I dunno. The recidivism might be pretty high.

I mean, what else is there left to do but to play around on your computer, if you ain't got no balls?

It would cut second generation phishers down to near zero, however...
I am hereby noting that water-sprayed-out-of-nose did officially transpire at 9:09pm my local time. Thank you. :)
 

Doctor Q

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Seems to me we really shouldn't have to worry about phishers. After all, these schemes work on plenty of victims, so they can steal lots of identities, empty people's bank accounts, and make out very nicely. So the phishers get rich, and they can buy a tropical island and retire early. Therefore, they won't need to phish us anymore.
 

devilot

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Surprise surprise, you were all right...

I just got this email and it's from PayPal verifying that the first email was indeed fraudulent.

thanks, again!
 

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yg17

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General rule of thumb, never, ever click a link in an e-mail sent to you by Paypal even if you're 99% sure it's legit. Always go to paypal.com yourself and login there. Same goes for online banking, ect.
 

Xtremehkr

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Wow, I got the same one a while ago. I just wonder what agency I could possibly forward it to, so that something may be done about it.
 

yenko

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devilot76 said:
I just got this in my email... however it was sort of um, back dated? I don't know-- it just showed up as 'new' and unread although I have checked my email before and after this supposed email turned up. I'll attach a screen shot. I'm scared to click on the link in the email but here it is (I ctrl-clicked to copy the link): link from email
Big Time Fraud ! :eek:

Hover over one of the links without clicking on it and it will display the true website. You could copy that link and report it to Pay-Pal or just forward that email to their security department. They'll figure it out.
 

Kobushi

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Right behind you.
devilot76 said:
I just got this email and it's from PayPal verifying that the first email was indeed fraudulent.

thanks, again!
Glad you didn't get duped! Too bad most of PayPal's suggestions at the botton of that note are geared towards windoze users :rolleyes: Won't really help you out much; but I guess we're used to that. Either way, it's nice to know that PayPal is at least on top of things enough to let you know what's going on and reassure you. :cool:

Cheers!
 

katie ta achoo

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I get emails like this from eBay and paypal, and I'm not even a user of EITHER service.

Since I know that the user/pass will be emailed right to the phishers, I always fill it out like
user: you guys suck
pass: reformat your dell

or

user: when I'm CFO
pass: I'll kill you.

it's fun.

ok, not really. it gives me something to do.
 

yenko

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CanadaRAM said:
Method is not reliable as a determination whether it is or is not a fraud. The link could be obscured, or spoofed with foreign character substitution, or a Javascript substitution, or...
...........hence.......a fraud.
It would not be a true Pay-Pal link. :)