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Discussion in 'Politics, Religion, Social Issues' started by iJohnHenry, Dec 27, 2011.
It is to weep.
The religious are quickly turning that part of the world into a living hell.
Difference between this happening in Israel as opposed to a Muslim country is that in Israel, it caused national outrage and the vast majority is against the radical minority. If this happened in Iran, they would probably stone the little girl to death for dressing like a whore with her neck exposed and all.
How many times did they use "ultra-Orthodox" in that article?
Further proof that Religious are permanently stuck in the 1900s like a broken record.
Well, you have to distinguish them somehow, don't you? It is interesting to note that some "Ultra-Orthodox" Jews consider the term offensive because it implies extremism - but, based on many of their stances and behavior, I think both "Ultra Orthodox" and "Extremist" are often apt terms whether they like it or not. Why should they get a free pass when anyone wearing "Muslim garb" these days is considered a potential "terrorist"?
I think you may be a few dozen centuries off.
Strawman? It's America's #1 Stereotype.
USA! USA! USA!
How is it a strawman? I think you're way off base there.
Some of those Orthodox Jews take their religion very seriously.
Let's look at your assertion that I quoted:
Taking their religion seriously is fine with me.
It's the taking other people's religion seriously that is troubling.
Such is the nature of "Religion".
One persons religion is usually the only religion to that person and any other religion is evil.
That's what sucks about "Religion".
I should have used the term "many" or "most".
That does not change the fact that people are very quick to leap to terrorist or radical muslim in the US in particular, but in terms of media representation the extremist Jewish groups get very little press for their role in the situation in Israel/Palestine. And their role is not insignificant by any means.
"Ultra-Orthodox" or is a perfectly applicable term for certain Haredi groups if "Radical Muslim" is acceptible in the mainstream.
Which is true for all those main stream religion we dealing with. When we grow up we learn about "the religion" based on parents preferences and cultural background. And that is fine as it (can) give guidance for those who growing up.
But later in life we mostly stop to develop further, challenge in a positive way the status quo. And just stuck. And repeating all the thing we learned as kids.
And hey: thats convenient . Once people get older they should start thinking more deeper and might find out that all the differences are not as relevant as they look like when they were younger. This would finally lead to better understanding of each others denomination. A nice example is a (audio)book from Dalai Lama where he compare the basics of different religion , they have so much in common.
The thread seems to be cooling off, so let me add another log to the fire.
What say you all to the part where the police heretofore have not gone into their 'enclave'?
It must be time to pull out some modern laws, and charge some people with assault and battery, hate crimes, child abuse, (name your poison).
Forced to get a Bachelors in Philosophy from Harvard or Oxford.
Now THAT would do it for sure
iJohn, it appears that your avatar is pissed. Is that as a result of your dereliction of duty, or is he just a lush by association.
I'll go back to powering MR servers in the New Year.
Another delightful example of how organized religion (Christianity,Judaism, Islam, etc., etc.) brings us together in love and acceptance in the name of a beneficent god.
The two greatest evils - responsible for more inhumanity and cruelty than any other sources: nationalism and organized religion.
Requesting a title change, the title has nothing to do with anything in this thread.
I can do that, IF requested by a Mod, but you might find the change less palatable.
However, if the confluence of these two groups bothers you, I suggest you attempt to get over it.
I would like to add anykind of racism into the list of evil; the sample above remind me to countless samples even just from the last century. Different skincolor, different believes, different OS
You are correct. Yet/ironically, the title has everything to do with this thread - to polarize Jews and Muslims. and it has served that purpose perfectly.