Is your Wi-Fi secure? Do you "borrow" other peoples Wi-Fi?

Discussion in 'Community Discussion' started by todd2000, Oct 27, 2009.

  1. todd2000 macrumors 68000

    Nov 14, 2005
    Danville, VA
    Just as the title says, is your wireless network secure? Personally I have no password, and my SSID is "Belkin AP." :) There really is nobody around me who would leech off of it so I never bothered. If I lived in a city I might secure it. Personally I don't care if somebody "borrows" my network for a few minutes, but not long term.

    Personally I've hopped on quite a few networks to look something up with my iPod Touch, or I'll drive around a neighborhood till I find an open network and use Google Maps to get directions. I don't see anything wrong with that as long as Im not doing anything malicious, or illegal.

    So do you guys secure you networks? And do you see anything wrong with "borrowing" someones network for a few minutes. Im not talking about leeching off your neighbors Wi-Fi 24/7, just using someones network for a little bit.
  2. dukebound85 macrumors P6


    Jul 17, 2005
    5045 feet above sea level
    secured via wpa

    i dont want to be liable for leechers actions
  3. GimmeSlack12 macrumors 603


    Apr 29, 2005
    San Francisco
    Me too. Rather I just don't want to share my internet. Though I "borrow" from others if I'm around without a connection.
  4. celticpride678

    Feb 15, 2009
    Boston, MA
    I use WEP security just to have something, but WEP does not do much. I have used other people's networks, but with their permission only.
  5. SkyBell macrumors 604


    Sep 7, 2006
    Texas, unfortunately.
    No password on mine. We're far enough apart from our neighbors that they would have to be standing at our property line to get a signal.

    I don't usually borrow other people's networks. I've done it once or twice, but most of the time it isn't really worth the hassle.
  6. dukebound85 macrumors P6


    Jul 17, 2005
    5045 feet above sea level
  7. eawmp1 macrumors 601


    Feb 19, 2008
    Invisible, WPA password protected here. However, if I pick up open wifi, I feel no problem with accessing. Way faster than 3G.
  8. mac88 macrumors 6502

    Aug 7, 2008
    Boston, MA.
    I agree. Just secure it and forget about it. Why take a chance?
  9. sammich macrumors 601


    Sep 26, 2006
    WPA2 Personal and both are hidden. Being hidden introduces a few problems, but been too lazy to change it back.

    Always on the hunt for free wifi. Unfortunately, most ppl's here in Sydney are far too clever.
  10. Rodimus Prime macrumors G4

    Rodimus Prime

    Oct 9, 2006
    I kept my secure. Simple and easy to do. Now I have borrowed others wireless before. Hell for an entire summer I leach off some one else wireless because they left it open. I used the other person's because I was having trouble getting the one were I was staying working.

    Now in my college days one of my neighbors left there wireless unsecured and on default settings. Took me all of 30 sec to get into it. first time I just changed the wireless name to tell them that they needed to change the default password at least.

    Next time I really screwed with it and lock them out of there own wireless. I heard a lot of cussing and yelling so I went back in and unlock it but it was funny.
  11. Nermal Moderator


    Staff Member

    Dec 7, 2002
    New Zealand
    WPA2 on mine. When I bought my house, I found that one of the neighbours had an open network. I confess to using it a couple of times before I got my own connection in (nothing major, probably less than 5 MB all up).
  12. Nuck81 macrumors regular

    Oct 15, 2009
    Western Kentucky
  13. Melrose Suspended


    Dec 12, 2007
    We only use the wifi on a turn-on, turn-off basis. Mostly, our computers are on the desk so we're wired right in.

    Borrowing other peoples, I don't think twice about it. If they name their network something like "Don't steal my internet" but then don't have it secured - it would be amoral issue that I decide on an individual basis. :p
  14. yg17 macrumors G5


    Aug 1, 2004
    St. Louis, MO
    WPA password here. I don't hide the SSID though, it's more convenient for me to have it visible and hiding it does nothing to protect your network.
  15. notjustjay macrumors 603


    Sep 19, 2003
    Canada, eh?
    I have a password on mine. I give it freely to anyone who visits me, but it's to keep snoops and neighbors out. I have a ton of wireless networks around me, and a couple of them do appear to be unsecured. You never know, though, with an unsecured network, if they're running a honeypot or a packet sniffer or something... it's just as risky for you to be using their internet as it is for them to expose their connection to others.

    Years ago I visited my sister as she first moved into a high-rise condo in Toronto. It was going to be days before her internet was hooked up. I discovered that one of her neighbors had an open WiFi connection, but to get the best signal, you basically had to sit inside the garbage room on her floor (beside the garbage chute). Sure enough, if you were to have tossed your garbage bag out, you would have found me crouched in the room with my laptop...
  16. No1451 macrumors 6502

    Oct 20, 2008
    Ottawa, ON
    Secured with WPA, MAC filtering and IP reservations(there are actually no free IPs on the network though someone could spoof/jump one for the machines that are sometimes not physically in the house).

    I secure because when I didn't my jerkoff neighbours torrented a bunch of material and ended up breaking my cap for the month. Locked it down with WEP and told them to **** off, they did it again so I stopped being so generous to others wandering who might want to use it briefly because of these idiots.
  17. tofagerl macrumors 6502a


    May 16, 2006
    WPA2 personal. If without internet access at home, I have been known to borrow any open wifi networks, but they are few and far between these days.
  18. ucfgrad93 macrumors P6


    Aug 17, 2007
    I keep mine password protected and I don't use other people's wifi.
  19. prodigee macrumors 6502a

    Sep 23, 2009
    Brooklyn, NY
    I have a protected WEP network with a really simple password, but no one lives close enough to get a signal off my network, and if there is an unprotected network, I will use it, I have no issue with it, if they didnt want people using it, they would protect it.

    250th post w00t!
  20. toolbox macrumors 68020


    Oct 6, 2007
    Australia (WA)
    same here, i have used someones open wifi one day - then i got there public ISP address and rang the isp and told them and they then rang the person and it was secured the next day.
  21. dmmcintyre3 macrumors 68020

    Mar 4, 2007
    WPA2 Personal for me, and once connected you have to figure out our ip address range and then steal one of our computer's ips to get our proxy to let you on the internet. But they would just use our neighbors instead. Much faster and much less security (five digit wep key)

    And yeah, I dont mind using an unsecured wifi when our internet is out to check MR/weather/news with a text only browser. (through a VPN)
  22. yoppie macrumors 6502a

    Oct 19, 2007
    WPA2 Personal + Hidden.

    I've hopped onto others' connection when I didn't have one. I don't stay on it too long.
  23. kwk1 macrumors regular


    Aug 30, 2008
    Mine is secured and I only use others with permission.
  24. pilotError macrumors 68020


    Apr 12, 2006
    Long Island
    WPA2 Personal

    I used to leave it open because I didn't want the hassle of friends coming over and having to type a password.

    At some point, my internet started really crawling. My lovely neighbor next door decided to leach his entire house off my router. I cut him off by putting his MAC addresses in the dissallow list, but he had the nerve to change a couple of his ethernet cards. He actually told me his internet stopped working, I offered to fix it but he refused. He had a "friend" that did his networking for him.

    The day after I cut him off for the second time, his kid came over and was telling me his internet stopped working.

    Some people just suck...

    Then again...

    I work in NYC and they don't allow wireless into our networks (for good reason). Some of my co-workers would hunt down wireless routers and use the default password for the router. I would say 6 times out of 10, they would be able to get in and add themselves to the router.

    Sorry for the long story, in short, secure your router, change the default admin password...
  25. bigjnyc macrumors 603


    Apr 10, 2008
    WPA2 Personal in my house, I activate the guest account sometimes but even that is password protected which I give to my friends when they come over. And I have used unprotected WI-FI in the past but only for short periods of time like if I'm visiting someone or something like that.

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